Posted on 08/24/2015 7:03:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Appoint himself dictator-in-chief? Well, I’ve seen some of his supporters promote just that. More than one has said we should dump the Constitution and install Trump as a dictator to “get things done.”
I’ve also seen the idea put forth that he should just govern by illegal executive actions, like Obama.
I think you've let your cognitive dissonance with your support or Walker or whoever warp your reality.
It is clear what Trump has said regarding his policy objectives on illegals is stronger than what Cruz has said and won’t say. Anyone denying that is playing liberal games. I see a few areas Trump should be even tougher and that may well come. Cruz should at least match Trump on illegals but I think it is obvious why he hasn’t.
LMAO!
Can you post a link on that “opposite”? Last I checked, Cruz stated that birthright citizenship was protected by the 14th amendment.
Evidently in 2011 he also opposed the idea of even wasting our time on changing it:
“I think it is a mistake for conservatives to be focusing on trying to fight what the Constitution says on birthright citizenship. I think we are far better off focusing on securing the border, because birthright citizenship wouldn’t be an issue if we didn’t have people coming in illegally.”
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/2358214/birthright-citizenship-is-ted-cruz-flip-flopping-on-the-14th-amendment/#jL4esceX4ChMb9p0.99
Which is what kills Cruz's candidacy for me, because, otherwise, Cruz is more conservative than Trump--- but fails where we need him most, on immigration! If he is willing to play games with words and shy away from this, I'll HAVE to take Trump, because even if Trump thinks billionaries oughta pay more money than other folks (percentage wise), he's not going to shove down our throat 40 million illegals and a generation of Liberal Politicians coming to power because of their votes and their children's children's votes.
You know Walker isn’t my man; we’ve had more than one conversation about Ted Cruz. And I’m on a Cruz thread now.
Is dishonesty necessary to try and bolster your hero?
I have no idea who you support and have never kept track of all the silly people I've debated on here. Walker and Cruz essentially have the same position on the matter: "We'll talk about what will happen to illegals AFTER you vote for us!" It's the "conservative" version of the Nancy Pelosi quote.
Walker and Cruz do not have the same position on the border. I believe you know you’re lying.
You really ought to think about that the next time you go over to the Religion forum and start preaching and throwing Scripture around.
When you are president, you control the Justice Department, among others. You also determine judicial picks.
Since Cruz has a law degree and is a constitutional expert, he has represented Texas and many conservative issues in front the the Supremes, I think he has a better chance of picking someone good than Trump.
Key words: "BORDER"
What did I say: "ILLEGALS".
What do both say?:
"I'm not taking a position on it one way or the other," he told Harwood. "I'm saying that until you secure the border and enforce the laws, any discussion about anything else is really looking past the very things we have to do."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/scott-walker-birthright-citizenship_55d78cc7e4b0a40aa3ab0826
Hearing a familiar tune?
Then again, I do think Walker and Cruz probably have the same or similar position on the border, assuming Walker hasn't walked back any talk of building a wall.
What a charlatan...
Donald Trump: Mean Spirited GOP Won't Win Elections
"The Republican Party will continue to lose presidential elections if it comes across as mean-spirited and unwelcoming toward people of color, Donald Trump tells Newsmax."
"...The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.”
Yep, I said lying.
And let’s not forget the accusation that Heidi Cruz is an extreme leftist.
Lying.
Clear?
Let's think about this. 1) The GOP is filled with rotten, stinking, lying piles of crap who will grant amnesty in a heart beat.
2) The President will be the leader of these misfits.
Do you want Cruz who is just going to grant amnesty by another name, so that illegals can get citizenship perhaps a little delayed, but still inevitably? OR a leader who doesn't give a damn about the GOP and will fight for his position?
The answer is clear on that one. The excuse that the President will not have legislative powers isn't good enough when you're dealing with RINOs committed to amnesty.
Levin has already paved the way. All we gotta do is walk down that road.
I think we are conflicted over an ambiguity in what you stated:
...and his worthless opposition to birthright citizenship which he, again, defines as being within the 14th amendment.
Which part, the "worthless opposition" or his interpretation of the 14th? I don't consider his opposition to birthright citizenship "worthless." It may be considered in your opinion ineffectual given the problem of ratifying an amendment, but I do think he opposes what "birthright citizenship" has become. I think believes the fix is if we control the borders and who is here the point becomes moot. I do think he is misinformed about the 14th. It will be interesting to see what he says as the arguments against the current bogus interpretation becomes more widely distributed. As I've said, I've been posting here about the latter for 12 years. So I don't think it is a ruse on his part; the ignorance arrogance seems more likely.
And you're the real liar misrepresenting my words, and an irrational, crazy person too since you won't talk substance with me but throw insults anyway.
And let’s not forget the accusation that Heidi Cruz is an extreme leftist.
Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6nYjbCOiLA
Take special notice what her far left professor has to say about her. If not for Cruz, to paraphrase, she wouldn't be hanging around "those circles"!
Trump has never said we stop all immigration nor all H-1Bs. You can have a merit based immigration system rather the kinship system we have now. The numbers could be drastically lower as suggested by Trump in his plan. Based on your comments, it is apparent you have not read the plan. Here is an excerpt that refers to American workers:
Put American Workers First
Decades of disastrous trade deals and immigration policies have destroyed our middle class. Today, nearly 40% of black teenagers are unemployed. Nearly 30% of Hispanic teenagers are unemployed. For black Americans without high school diplomas, the bottom has fallen out: more than 70% were employed in 1960, compared to less than 40% in 2000. Across the economy, the percentage of adults in the labor force has collapsed to a level not experienced in generations. As CBS news wrote in a piece entitled “America’s incredible shrinking middle class”: “If the middle-class is the economic backbone of America, then the country is developing osteoporosis.”
The influx of foreign workers holds down salaries, keeps unemployment high, and makes it difficult for poor and working class Americans – including immigrants themselves and their children – to earn a middle class wage. Nearly half of all immigrants and their US-born children currently live in or near poverty, including more than 60 percent of Hispanic immigrants. Every year, we voluntarily admit another 2 million new immigrants, guest workers, refugees, and dependents, growing our existing all-time historic record population of 42 million immigrants. We need to control the admission of new low-earning workers in order to: help wages grow, get teenagers back to work, aid minorities’ rise into the middle class, help schools and communities falling behind, and to ensure our immigrant members of the national family become part of the American dream.
Additionally, we need to stop giving legal immigrant visas to people bent on causing us harm. From the 9/11 hijackers, to the Boston Bombers, and many others, our immigration system is being used to attack us. The President of the immigration caseworkers union declared in a statement on ISIS: “We've become the visa clearinghouse for the world.”
Here are some additional specific policy proposals for long-term reform:
Increase prevailing wage for H-1Bs. We graduate two times more Americans with STEM degrees each year than find STEM jobs, yet as much as two-thirds of entry-level hiring for IT jobs is accomplished through the H-1B program. More than half of H-1B visas are issued for the program's lowest allowable wage level, and more than eighty percent for its bottom two. Raising the prevailing wage paid to H-1Bs will force companies to give these coveted entry-level jobs to the existing domestic pool of unemployed native and immigrant workers in the U.S., instead of flying in cheaper workers from overseas. This will improve the number of black, Hispanic and female workers in Silicon Valley who have been passed over in favor of the H-1B program. Mark Zuckerberg’s personal Senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1Bs that would decimate women and minorities.
Requirement to hire American workers first. Too many visas, like the H-1B, have no such requirement. In the year 2015, with 92 million Americans outside the workforce and incomes collapsing, we need to companies to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed. Petitions for workers should be mailed to the unemployment office, not USCIS.
End welfare abuse. Applicants for entry to the United States should be required to certify that they can pay for their own housing, healthcare and other needs before coming to the U.S.
Jobs program for inner city youth. The J-1 visa jobs program for foreign youth will be terminated and replaced with a resume bank for inner city youth provided to all corporate subscribers to the J-1 visa program.
Refugee program for American children. Increase standards for the admission of refugees and asylum-seekers to crack down on abuses. Use the monies saved on expensive refugee programs to help place American children without parents in safer homes and communities, and to improve community safety in high crime neighborhoods in the United States.
Immigration moderation. Before any new green cards are issued to foreign workers abroad, there will be a pause where employers will have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed immigrant and native workers. This will help reverse women's plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages.
As for amnesty, Ted Cruz says he is “unequivocally opposed to amnesty” (his exact words) at the 4:27 mark in this video dated May 30, 2015.
LOL. Based on the comment, you even failed to read the article of this thread. Cruz doesn't consider legalization of the lawbreakers, allowing them to stay and work here, the object of their crime, as amnesty according to him because there is no path to citizenship. This is Clintonian akin to defining what the meaning of "is" is. It is also a dumb solution because the courts wouldn't allow second class citizenship and the Dems would have a great political issue. The fact is that Cruz is trying to deceive you. He supports amnesty but uses his own definition.
Here is what Cruz said in 2013 at the time of the Gang of 8 bill:
Cruz Tries to Claim the Middle Ground on Immigration
Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.
“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.
Mr. Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. He said he was against naturalization because it rewarded lawbreakers and was unfair to legal immigrants. It also perpetuates illegal crossings, he added.
Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.
I think you understand me rightly. It is ineffectual because he opposes it upon grounds that cannot be won, or at least will be an extremely difficult task (an amendment to the constitution).
It fits within the pattern established by his position on amnesty-- by defining it entirely on a "pathway to citizenship," but not on legalization which will lead to a pathway to citizenship regardless of whatever he promises, and he should be smart enough to know that.
It will be interesting to see what he says as the arguments against the current bogus interpretation becomes more widely distributed.
I have not seen any recent quotes of his attacking the bogus interpretation.
Tell that to Obama who has had two executive amnesties. The 2012 Dreamer amnesty has, to date, legalized 580,000 Dreamers including giving them SSNs and work permits.
What he proposes is a legal process Congress could reject. Amnesty legitimizes an illegal process. So the two are so substantively different in so many attributes that, just because they share one (displacing American workers), it is not a legitimate parallel.
We are talking about his agenda. They could reject the repeal of Obamacare. Ronald Reagan approved a "one-time" amnesty in 1986. It originated in Congress and became the law of the land. Obama has bypassed Congress, which is illegal. Cruz's "legal process" is amnesty if approved by Congress.
In supporting the H1-b increase, Cruz is acting on what he believes is true information, believing that there is a shortage of STEM workers when there is not. Fixing a belief in false information is easy... if the candidate is honest. So let's fix that and see what he does. For him to see that he has been systematically misled, it's going to take more than a few examples.
The GOPe and their corporate paymasters want expanded H-1bs because they get cheaper, indentured labor. It is the bottom line that counts, not American workers. Cruz proposed this as an amendment to the Gang of 8 bill, which more than doubled the guest worker programs. Cruz wanted even more. It is a matter of donor money than being unaware of the facts.
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