Posted on 09/28/2015 7:24:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I suppose those are past events, but I do know Jamarat is much different today than shown in those pictures.
Forget it Jake. It’s Mecca.
if genuine, reveal a stunning level of brutal disregard for human lifey'know, because those dead bodies are still alive. /s
Yep.
The way they breed, not to worry — they’ll make more!
Our press is not as truthful as they could be...
"They're dead, Jim." Human cadavers at that point, but it seems from prior posts that the story is a sham anyway. Though I believe human remains should be treated with a certain amount of decorum.
Officials from several countries have said that more than 1,000 people died in last week’s stampede near Mecca during the annual Hajj pilgrimage.
The last figure given by the Saudi authorities was 769.
Mr Yakubu said that in total, 14 trucks loaded with bodies were brought to the city. He added that so far 1,075 bodies had been offloaded from 10 trucks and taken into the morgues. Four trucks had yet to be dealt with, he said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34391055
1 Truck is approx 108 bodies, so it is more than 1500
This means that Mina is breaking the earlier record (also from Mina): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Mina_disaster
We should not forget the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khodynka_Tragedy in Russia
More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_stampedes
But many are missing. Is the figure higher, perhaps more than 2 000 are dead?
Mass panic? Stampedes? Nonsense, say the experts trying to stop another disaster like last week’s in Mecca: they’re failures of management, and they aren’t inevitable. So why aren’t they a thing of the past?
The challenges, as always, are the pinch points. Everybody must get within throwing distance of the pillars, for instance (where the deaths occurred in 1994, 2003, 2005 and 2006), and everybody must circle the Kaaba within the Masjid-al-Haram, so there will always be a limit to how many people can safely be present in these spaces in a day – and numbers at the Hajj are quite extraordinary. For comparison, 500,000 people an hour over Jamarat bridge is the largest-ever football crowd once every 24 minutes, or the whole of Germany once a week. One possible solution, of course, would be to spread the Hajj over more days.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/03/hajj-crush-how-crowd-disasters-happen-and-how-they-can-be-avoided
The victims and perps are muzzies, so who cares?
There’s a pile and it’s assumed by many that they were bulldozed, but there isn’t any bulldozer caught red shoveled, so to speak. The pile could as well have been what resulted from the stampede.
Of course our Saudi-owned press won’t report it.
You’d think they’d use a ticket issuing system or something like that.
Can they read?
Wouldn’t need to.. they could color code the tickets. Okay, the yellow group come in and throw your stones... okay, the blue group, etc.
The Saudi estimate of the disaster was 769, but the new estimate, based on an AP count, suggests that 1,453 people died in the stampede. This new number would make it the deadliest catastrophe in the history of the event.
On Oct. 6, Iran’s Health Minister Hassan Ghazizadeh Hashemi said, “Some of the missing may be among the arrested, or in detention centers or prisons of Saudi Arabia, or in hospitals.” Foreign Ministry official Hassan Ghashghavi said, “We do not know if these dear ones have joined God or if they have been detained somewhere. Until their bodies have been returned we can’t speak with certainty about this matter.”
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/10/iranians-missing-hajj-stampede.html
In general, harsh reaction translates into military action. Iran has just finished its negotiations with the six world powers over its nuclear program, and thus considers itself to be in a stronger position. Separately, Iran also assesses that Saudi Arabia is in a desperate situation in Yemen. Therefore, in the case of a possible military confrontation with Saudi Arabia, there are several scenarios that Tehran could consider:
Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/10/iran-saudi-tension.html
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