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House Freedom Caucus will oppose the budget deal
Hotair ^ | 10/28/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/28/2015 10:07:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

We found out earlier this morning that Paul Ryan has changed his mind and will reluctantly support the upcoming budget deal even though “the process stinks.” Rand Paul wants nothing to do with it and wants to filibuster it in the Senate. But will it even get that far? We found out from the House Freedom Caucus earlier today that they will be opposing the scheme for a variety of reasons.

Washington, DC – The House Freedom Caucus issued the following statement related to the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015, H.R. 1314:

“The latest budget deal continues the sad pattern of the past five years: a fiscal monstrosity gets negotiated in secret with Obama, Reid, and Pelosi; the American people and their representatives get shut out of the process; and the bill is rushed through the House on short notice and without proper scrutiny or the ability to offer amendments. This deal is an affront to open, accountable, and limited government. It plunges our nation into debt to the tune of nearly $20 trillion, busts the spending caps enacted by Congress just a few years ago, perpetuates our looming entitlement crisis by pilfering money from Social Security, and contains budget and accounting gimmicks that are manifestly fraudulent. The House Freedom Caucus strongly opposes this deal and will vote against it on the House floor.”

Having this happen at the same moment that Ryan is negotiating the final vote to make him Speaker certainly doesn’t set an auspicious tone for the coming months. This deal, assuming it goes through as billed, not only raises the spending limits and increases the debt, but locks the GOP majority out of any additional leverage in negotiating a more prudent fiscal approach until after the next elections. It’s not hard to understand why Justin Amash was clearly a bit peeved when he got the word. (CNN)

Michigan Rep. Justin Amash, a member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, strongly objected to the deal.

“We’re not just here to take commands,” Amash said. “People back home expect us to participate in the process. I hope that Paul Ryan will let us know how he feels about the process.”

Ryan, who is the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, deliberately took a low profile and refused to weigh in on the deal, declining to comment to reporters and not saying a word about it during a private meeting with fellow House Republicans.

At that meeting, however, the tension was rife.

It’s still more than a year until the elections so I don’t understand why we aren’t taking a harder line on this. I understand that John Boehner is on his way out the door and feels like he has nothing to lose by ticking off the grassroots at this point. I can also see how he might think that he can spare Paul Ryan a lot of headaches by ramming this through on his final couple of days and let Ryan mouth some negative comments about it, but I’m guessing most of the Freedom Caucus has already seen through that play. I don’t know that the incoming Speaker (assuming that still happens) can get away with just saying, yeah, this stinks, but that’s how those guys always operate. It will be different when I’m in charge.

Of course, if we’ve given away enough to the Democrats to draw a significant number of votes I suppose it won’t matter. Obama signed off on the deal personally (which should tell you enough about it right there) so I doubt that too many of them will buck. This thing may already be a done deal, leaving the House leadership at odds with the more conservative members pretty much the same as it’s been for a couple of years now.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016election; budgetdeal; congress; debt; election2016; freedomcaucus; paulryan; wisconsin
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1 posted on 10/28/2015 10:07:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Liars


2 posted on 10/28/2015 10:08:37 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy
Is the House Freedom Caucus hearing it from their constituents about backstabbing conservatives in choosing a new Speaker? So now it's there turn to pretend to want to stop something, but it passes anyway with Ryan's "reluctant" support.

At this rate, I wonder if the 'pubs will even keep the HOR. The voters are pretty fed up.

3 posted on 10/28/2015 10:12:44 AM PDT by grania
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, then they need to oppose Paul Ryno.


4 posted on 10/28/2015 10:16:04 AM PDT by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just who exactly is this House Freedom Caucus? I haven’t ever heard of them before.


5 posted on 10/28/2015 10:16:34 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ooooh the vaulted “freedom caucus”.
I’m sure the 14 minutes of opposition will be enough for them to post about it on Facebook....with Paul Ryan’s permission of course.


6 posted on 10/28/2015 10:17:28 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind
But will it even get that far?

Yes, because there is nothing they can do to stop it. There are enough Democrats and establishment Republicans who will vote for it.

7 posted on 10/28/2015 10:17:57 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

Kabuki pole dancing. They’re protesting AFTER the terms of the deal were already agreed to. All theatrics. Damn ugly theatrics at that.


10 posted on 10/28/2015 10:20:47 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is self-abuse - without the pleasure.)
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I doubt that. IMO GOPe establishment negotiated behind closed doors. The Freedom Caucus (aka Tea Party conservatives) are now voicing dissatisfaction.
11 posted on 10/28/2015 10:37:17 AM PDT by seeker7_dj (Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out)
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To: seeker7_dj

Don’t worry, Rand Paul’s going to save the day with his filibuster...lol...snort...


12 posted on 10/28/2015 10:42:41 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"House Freedom Caucus will oppose the budget deal" and vote for Ryan =Boehner
13 posted on 10/28/2015 11:14:45 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Cruz is inarguably a thoroughbred conservative." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bullsh!t!

Not buying the good cop bad cop routine.


14 posted on 10/28/2015 11:17:23 AM PDT by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS! TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

They don’t care. I agree with what Rush said on his show this morning: the house republicans would rather see Hillary elected than see a conservative as President. This is their way of helping to make that dream come true.


15 posted on 10/28/2015 11:20:36 AM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: seeker7_dj

Right. Like the “Freedom” caucus didn’t want Ryan as Speaker, then the next day they did. Harry Reid loves him some Ryan!

That’s all I need to know.


16 posted on 10/28/2015 11:21:57 AM PDT by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS! TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The RINOs and the Democrats will ram it through.

Its a done deal.


17 posted on 10/28/2015 11:30:34 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

The HFC has been steamrollered this month. The RINOs have driven them before them and heard the lamentations of their women.
The HFC got Boehner, but lost everything else.

The determination of the RINOs to offend their conservative voters so assiduously is astonishing.


18 posted on 10/28/2015 11:44:46 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Freedom Caucus, which will support Speaker Ryan, who supports the budge deal, opposes the budget deal.

Yeah, that sounds about right.


19 posted on 10/28/2015 11:45:24 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The caucus opposes the deal.

The individual members of that caucas love it though. :)

Boy it sure is great having a nation of stupid people. :)


20 posted on 10/28/2015 11:51:04 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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