Posted on 11/21/2015 7:49:36 AM PST by GonzoII
A survey commission by Germany security services estimated that there were around 7,900 active Salfis in Germany this June, Focus Online reports.
In January, there was thought to be 6300: meaning there was a 25 per cent leap in just four months.
For the past three years the number has been rising more steadily, at around just under 6 per cent every four months.
Before January the number rose by 2,500 - form 3,800 to 6,300 - over a three-year period, according to Germany's intelligence chief Hans-George Maassen.
Salafism is a form a radical Islam very closely related to the Wahhabism practiced in Saudi Arabia.
However, Salafis are completely unaffiliated to the house a Saud. They aim to practice their religion precisely as the first Muslims did in the 7th century, which they view as a "perfect time" - a time when Muslims controlled and ethnically cleansed much of the Middle East under the leadership of the war lord Muhammad.
Radical Salafi Islamists aim to establish an Islamic Theocracy and subordinate non-Muslims and often reject "man made laws". Both the Islamic State and Al Qaeda practice a form of Salafism, and the great majority of the world's terrorists come from this school of thought.
In October, Germany's intelligence chief warned that the country's existing Salafis were aggressively trying to recruit as many of the hundreds of thousands of new Muslim arrivals walking to Germany from from Syria, Eritrea, Iraq and Afghanistan as possible.
"We have in recent weeks increasingly seen attempts by Salafists to register as workers in refugee camps," he told Focus.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
>Muslims reject “man made laws”
So their child raping, boy diddling prophet was a transgender that wrote their idiot laws?
Gee — I wonder where they all came from?
Germany needs those immigrant workers to keep their technological based workforce growing.
And so to practice their pure, original 7th century religion - they go to GERMANY of all places.
They in fact are nothing but violent liars and parasites.
Glad to see somebody being precise. Salafism — the position that the salaf, the companions of Mohammed, built the perfect society, which is to be imitated in detail by all Muslims — is the underlying ideology/theology of all of the Muslim movements that are actively at war with the West. It is also regarded as extreme (and perhaps even a little insane) by the Muslims who are not actively at war with the West, some of who are actually our allies in the fight (e.g. General Al Sisi of Egypt, King Abdullah of Jordan and any Muslim jurists whose views said national leaders embrace).
Taking the position, as many do here on FR that salafism is “true Islam” and that our self-described Muslim allies are “apostates” is not helpful.
And they are just counting the ones who admit it.
Too bad the women, children and Christians were dumped overboard on the way over :(
ping!
The only reason anyone would say that is because it is exactly what all the Salafis say.
That's basicaly the position I take with the minor exception that I don't consider them apostates I consider al Sisi,of Egypt and King Abdullah of Jordan as Muslim heretics.
They both still call themselves Muslims.
Apostates would have abandoned the religion.
Heretics like them, want to change Islam to suit their beliefs.
Both of those leaders side with, and collaborate with us Kafirs, and no way to me after reading the Koran and Hadiths and studying Islam can you claim to be a Muslim and do that. -Tom
Helpful or not, it IS an accurate statement of the problem.
If it were easy, it wouldn't be a problem....
There's one on this invasion titled "The 900,000 Number" (number so far - seventh article down).
Thanks
Imagine the percent in another four months.
My point is first that it is not up to non-adherents of a religion to decide what the “true” version of that religion is. It is offensive to Orthodox Christians, Latin Christians and every species of protestant for a non-Christian to take a view on whether sticking with four out of five of the ancient Patriarchates and a conciliar view of ecclesiology, adhering to the Pope of Rome and a monarchical ecclesiology, or the sola scriptura priesthood-of-all-believers approach constitutes “true Christianity”.
The salafists have an argument that theirs is “true Islam”, but so do the Wahabbists who run Saudi Arabia, Shi’ites who regard Ayatollah al Sistani as their point of reference, the Shi’ites who regard Ayatollah Khameini as their point of reference, and the Ismailis who follow the Aga Khan, and...
Since the salafists are our enemies, while numerous other sects of Islam are not, it is not only not up to us to take a position on the salafists claim to represent “true Islam”, but it is counterproductive to validate it.
Thanks for the link. Good information.
I didn't decide, the Salafis did.
Since the salafists are our enemies, while numerous other sects of Islam are not,
Kind of true in a statistical sense. There are Salafis who are purely academic but pose no real threat. There is ISIS who are hands-on murderers. They murder a disproportionate number of Muslims for not being true Muslims and fewer of us.
OTOH the sects you claim are our allies do not murder us directly but they produce or fund their share of terrorists. Comparably, the Iranian sect has murdered many Israelis through their proxies, but proportionally they are less of a threat as a population. In all these cases it's the leaders that are a problem not the rank and file. If they are our "allies" it is for their own convenience at this time. They are liars at the core.
I disagree.
If you investigate a religion and agree with it you should join it.
If you disagree with it's concepts you are not going to join it, but you will understand what they believe in that religion, even if you don't agree with that religion.
I don't personally believe there is only one God and Muhammed is his prophet.
But if I did I would have the same interpretation as the Wahhabis after my having read the Koran and Hadiths.
To me , and the Wahabbis, that's what the religion is all about, and anyone who calls themselves a Muslim and doesn't believe that way is a heretic and no better than a Kafir. (unbeliever)
The problem for us Kafirs is the fundamental Muslims who interperet the Koran and Hadiths can't look the otherway and leave us Infidels alone. God despises us, and wants the world to be dominated by Muslims.
Allah in the Koran and Muhammed in the Hadiths are explicit in how to treat non-believers.
Kafirs must convert,or they should be subjugated and pay Muslims protection money (Jizya) or failing to do the fore-mentioned, Muslims should kill them.
That's it. No wiggle room. No Mr. nice guy, even to your own mother or father if they are Infidels.
This is such a hard row to hoe many born into Islam contort it to accommodate what hey want to believe to make it easier to practice. Those people I would call heretics.-Tom
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