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Maybe we should just let computers decide who gets a job
Hot Air.com ^ | November 28, 2015 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 11/28/2015 7:16:03 PM PST by Kaslin

Should computers decide who gets a job? That’s a question recently asked by Government Executive Magazine which looked at a study of hiring practices and how much hiring recommendations generated by standardized testing differed from managers who “went with their gut” in terms of eventual employee performance and retention. The results were, at least as I read it, a bit muddled.

First of all, the test subjects they looked at were all applicants for low skill service jobs. (Such as you’d find for new hires at call centers or data entry firms.) They were all given standardized tests and those results were passed on to client firm managers who could either hire the top scoring applicants or use their own impressions and disregard the test results.

The tests included not only questions about technical and cognitive skills, but also questions to assess personality and overall fit for the firm. The companies hired HR managers and gave them the test results (coded as green for best scores, yellow for moderate, and red for lowest) but also gave them the ability to factor in other qualities that they thought might make for good hires. Essentially giving them the go ahead to pick candidates with lower scores if they thought that they’d in fact be good candidates. That's when things went off the rails.

According to the study, when managers used their discretion to override the hiring order implied by the test results (by hiring an applicant who perhaps had a score in the yellow range, when one in the green range was available) the outcomes, of both tenure and productivity, were worse.

These results suggest, at least in part, that using a hiring algorithm – in essence turning the decision primarily over to a data management system – could produce better results. But even the authors of the study acknowledge that it’s just not as simple as all that.

But on the other hand relegating people and the firms they work for to data points focuses only on the success of firms in terms of productivity and tenure, and that might be a shallow way of interpreting what makes a company successful. Firms that are populated only by high-achieving test takers could run the risk of becoming full of people who are all the same from similar schools, or with the same types of education, similar personality traits, or the same views. And that could potentially stall some of the hard work being done in the effort to introduce more diversity of every kind into companies all over the country. And that type of diversity, too, has been proven to be an increasingly important factor in overall firm performance.

As with most things in the business world, these are decisions with long term impacts which can vary significantly based on where you are in the food and power chains. If you’re hiring somebody to do little more than punch numbers into a spreadsheet or assemble fast food orders, some basic skills testing might indeed be the most predictive ruling factor. After all, you wouldn’t want to hire someone based on their winning smile and assurances of being a hard worker only to find out that they’ve never used a keyboard other than the one of their Android phone. But even then there are other factors to consider. Is the person a dedicated worker who shows maturity and responsibility? Are they interested in not only meeting but exceeding expectations in the hopes of advancing their career? You won’t get that from a test, and sometimes it’s only the eye and ear of a skilled interviewer who picks such things up.

When you move up the food chain to senior employees and middle managers, such tests are essentially useless. You’re going to be looking at the resume and their references in addition to your own gut instincts. If they weren’t capable of performing the basic functions of the job they never would have risen far enough to be considered for a job with greater responsibilities. (With some exceptions for government work, granted.) Sometimes you have to meet a person, look them in the eye and shake their hand before you get a sense of what you’re really getting. Sure, there are some top notch actors out there who may fool you, but that tends to be found out rather quickly once they’re on the firing line.

Algorithms and computers may be a fine addition for low level entry work, but a human is going to be able to leave them in the dust for important jobs. Then again, if we’d let HAL select the astronauts for the 2001 mission we might never have found the obelisk, so…


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: computers; employment; hiring; jobs; robots
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To: Kaslin

My spellcheck still doesn’t think “Obama” is a word.


21 posted on 11/28/2015 9:03:26 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Kaslin

If so the best job in the world will be the guy who programs those computers.


22 posted on 11/28/2015 9:28:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kaslin

Think: “e-Verify,” and be afraid, very afraid.


23 posted on 11/28/2015 9:28:30 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: Impy

Perhaps it will not recognize any profanity as a word.


24 posted on 11/28/2015 10:02:25 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Indeed. I’ve never seen any data to prove “diversity” is a positive factor in a businesses performance.


25 posted on 11/28/2015 10:21:33 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: lastchance

Nope, all the standards check out, F word, S word. LOL. It suggests “Bamako”, “Alabama”, “Mamba”, “Bahama”, “Abeam”, and “Obadias”.

Back in 2008 my tagline was “Spellcheck hates Obama and so should you” or something like that.

I could add him to list of words with the click of a mouse but deliberately never have.


26 posted on 11/28/2015 10:47:13 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Lazamataz
Apparently I've got a good resume. I never HAVE to apply for a job. I get three to ten pitches of people coming to me trying to hire me, every single week.

Well, goody for you!

And how are things in the fast-food industry?

;-)

Regards,

27 posted on 11/29/2015 1:36:51 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Lazamataz
Apparently I've got a good resume. I never HAVE to apply for a job. I get three to ten pitches of people coming to me trying to hire me, every single week.

28 posted on 11/29/2015 1:45:30 AM PST by Bratch
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To: Kaslin
Computers can be corrupted by thier owners installing affirmative action software, white privileged software,AND black lives matter software
29 posted on 11/29/2015 3:46:04 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Lazamataz

But Laz. . .not everyone is a gigolo like you. . .


30 posted on 11/29/2015 4:06:28 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Kaslin
Suuuuure - the old "it's who counts the votes" meme would be replaced by "it's who programs the computer"....

I realize this isn't about elections...........yet, but it struck me as a step in that direction.

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31 posted on 11/29/2015 4:08:56 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Kaslin

The most important thing that computers don’t understand is THE WORK ETHIC!


32 posted on 11/29/2015 4:29:44 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Kaslin

The problem is people lie. They will cheat on the answers, BS their way through interviews.

Upper management hired a guy for me at my last place of work. I interviewed him and found him to be dumb. The boss said he had excellent references. He was hired and turned out not just to be incompetent, but a trouble maker. I called his former co-workers and it appeared they all lied just to get rid of him.

My point is there is no perfect way to get help. What needs to be done is streamline ways to fire the poor ones.


33 posted on 11/29/2015 4:45:18 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: alexander_busek; Bratch; Hulka
Sorry guys, that sounded real egotistical and self-important.

And a perfect, skilled, intelligent and handsome man like me, that can get a new job in 24 hours should I deign to grace a new place with my presence... should never behave like that.

34 posted on 11/29/2015 4:52:16 AM PST by Lazamataz ( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
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To: Lazamataz; alexander_busek; Bratch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS1okqbnePQ


35 posted on 11/29/2015 4:57:44 AM PST by Hulka
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To: usconservative

I left HR in 1991...worked high tech...IE Intel, etc during extreme growth...at the time I left HR was becoming like a govt bureaucracy...hated it...can’t imagine it now.


36 posted on 11/29/2015 8:00:04 AM PST by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: wetgundog

No problem the programmer can add the race card and it will all be normal.


37 posted on 11/29/2015 8:02:26 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Kaslin

Computers can also be programmed to accept the person who has the most demographic check boxes per the day’s political correctness standards, regardless of abrasive personality or hatred of everyone else.
Then you have TRUE institutional racism, when the person who has white and male checked off never gets hired per the hiring algorithm.


38 posted on 11/29/2015 10:40:06 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Hulka; Lazamataz

“But Laz. . .not everyone is a gigolo like you. . .”

I didn’t want to say anything but I HAVE noticed that Lazamataz and Duece Bigalow both have the same number of syllables. Has anyone ever seen them together?


39 posted on 11/29/2015 6:17:49 PM PST by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: RipSawyer

Things that make you go ‘hmmmmmmm’. . . .


40 posted on 11/30/2015 3:10:56 AM PST by Hulka
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