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SF Cops Complain that the City’s Body Camera Policy Treats Them Like Criminals
http://www.sfweekly.com ^ | Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:07 AM | Adam Brinklow

Posted on 12/04/2015 8:15:45 AM PST by redreno

As a parade of San Francisco cops questioned the police commission last night about why the city might not trust them to view footage from the body cameras they’d soon be required to wear on duty, five of their colleagues were across town, shooting an allegedly knife-wielding man.

It was a hell of a night all around.

The shooting happened roughly an hour before the commission meeting, calling Police Chief Greg Suhr away from City Hall. There was plenty of blue on display without him, though: Cops were lined up around the bend trying to convince the commissioners to see things their way.

Most of the particulars of the soon-to-be-enacted body camera protocol have been settled: the SFPD is definitely getting cameras, and officers will be required to turn them on during almost any incident that could get them into trouble.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; banglist; cameras; cops; donutwatch; guns; mediabias; police
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1 posted on 12/04/2015 8:15:45 AM PST by redreno
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To: redreno

hmmmmm.....


2 posted on 12/04/2015 8:17:45 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: redreno

Well, you ARE in San Francisco and YOU are the enemy.


3 posted on 12/04/2015 8:21:16 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: ManHunter

In San Fransicko, the criminals and insane run things and normal people are considered deviants. Inspector Harry Callahan really TRIED to clean up that city about 40 years ago.


4 posted on 12/04/2015 8:28:43 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: redreno

Thin blue line causes appropriate consequence. Problem Officers who personally caused said consequences whine a lot. Officers who are honest and competent continue to go quietly about their jobs.

See, I can write this in one paragraph.

Next story.


5 posted on 12/04/2015 8:35:39 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: redreno

Hmmm...can we make all public sector employees wear body cams while they are at work?

This could be fun. Especially if we could get a live feed.


6 posted on 12/04/2015 8:47:39 AM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: ameribbean expat

I’ve been demanding for a while that elected officials be forced to wear body cameras.


7 posted on 12/04/2015 8:51:31 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: redreno

If you have the authority of the State behind you, you are *NOT* innocent until proven guilty.

I don’t dislike cops; I know many I like and trust. But if you have a badge and a gun and your word against mine means I pay the fine or do the time, you are already privileged. If you use violence against someone under the authority of the law I don’t see why you get the same protections as a “citizen”. With privileges should always come greater responsibility.


8 posted on 12/04/2015 8:57:38 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: MrEdd

It’s not just if some competently continue to go quietly about their jobs, if they KNOW about the bad cops and don’t do anything they are just as bad and should face the same consequences.

IMHO


9 posted on 12/04/2015 8:59:35 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: ameribbean expat

Most places I’ve worked at have cameras.


10 posted on 12/04/2015 9:00:24 AM PST by redgolum
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To: redreno
officers will be required to turn them on during almost any incident that could get them into trouble.

The cameras should be on when ever they are on duty.

And if they complain about "privacy" tell them that convenience store clerks have cameras on them at all times without the pay, power or bennies they get.

11 posted on 12/04/2015 9:05:11 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: redreno

Any cop objecting to wearing the cameras just makes me more convinced that they need to wear them!

What are they trying to hide???


12 posted on 12/04/2015 9:13:49 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: redreno
The New York Police Department had a record of 450 no-knock raids per month with an error rate of 10% breaking into the wrong address. That's not all errors (such as mistaken identity), that's simple clerical errors.

Police power demands watching.

13 posted on 12/04/2015 9:15:33 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“The cameras should be on when ever they are on duty.”

That’s not the most technically feasible thing at the moment, due to battery and data storage issues.


14 posted on 12/04/2015 9:16:01 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: RedStateRocker
It’s not just if some competently continue to go quietly about their jobs, if they KNOW about the bad cops and don’t do anything they are just as bad and should face the same consequences.

The cause of a LOT of these problems are the unions, from crazy "officer safety" work rules to the type of training the officers receive.

15 posted on 12/04/2015 9:18:25 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Boogieman
That’s not the most technically feasible thing at the moment, due to battery and data storage issues.

This I doubt. A battery pack can be worn on the belt and the data storage can be a flash drive the size of a wallet.

16 posted on 12/04/2015 9:21:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

“A battery pack can be worn on the belt and the data storage can be a flash drive the size of a wallet.”

Batteries don’t last very long when a device is being constantly used, flash drives only hold so much data, and videos of any usable quality take a HUGE amount of storage.


17 posted on 12/04/2015 9:29:53 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Batteries don’t last very long when a device is being constantly used, flash drives only hold so much data, and videos of any usable quality take a HUGE amount of storage.

BS. Here is a 12-hour body camera for police use.

18 posted on 12/04/2015 10:05:11 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Sure, that’s what their advertising says, but if you check some reviews, you’ll see the battery actually only lasts 5 hours unless get an additional battery, and I’m sure that claim to store “12 hours” of video is not at full resolution or standard video speed. There’s no way they could store 12 hours of full speed, HD video on 16GB.


19 posted on 12/04/2015 11:14:10 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: redreno

in my observations, sf police are used to getting and using a lot of latitude. inside that latitude is some abuse. there are even relatively recent examples in the public record. and that does not count the times when a body camera would make a difference.

oakland police tend to be much worse, but the neighborhoods are also much worse, and oakland is going through a more severe revenue crisis— more revenue for pensions, including police pensions, less revenue for salaries including police salaries.


20 posted on 12/04/2015 11:18:55 AM PST by SteveH
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