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To: Isara

Nation building doesn’t work, whether it’s call Arab Spring or anything else. Years ago, I took a university class from Dr. Russell Kirk. He was fond of quoting a friend of his as saying, “The United States Constitution is not for export.”


12 posted on 12/10/2015 2:49:25 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: FourPeas
Sometimes nation building does work

It worked in Japan and Germany.

It was working in Iraq.

The much maligned GW Bush waged a just war in Iraq against Saddam's thugocracy that was in the process of starting WWIII in the Middle East.

Bush's victory in Iraq was one of the most amazing and successful military operations in history and the casualties on both sides were minimal.

After winning, Bush's post war occupation was probably the most restrained of in recent history and pretty much followed the precedents learned from WWII .

In a region of the world where there is still bitter hatred and animosity for wars fought 700 years ago, Bush and America were seen as liberators helping to free Iraq and provide a better future. Never before has a defeated enemy had as much good will for their winning adversary.

America fought hard to liberate Iraq from the foreign al Qaeda invaders and ex Saddam dead enders and finally defeated them with the help of the Iraqi people.

America won the war and then won an even harder fought peace in Iraq thanks to the sacrifices of our soldiers.

George Bush left office and gave Obama a success in Iraq and Iraq was on its way to becoming a normal and more prosperous country.

Obama came in and willfully delivered Iraq into the hands of its enemies.

The Shia half went to Obama’s buddies in Iran and the Sunni North was delivered into the hands of Obama’s buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood's ISIS army.

32 posted on 12/10/2015 3:54:17 PM PST by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Miller)
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To: FourPeas
"Nation building doesn’t work, whether it’s call Arab Spring or anything else. Years ago, I took a university class from Dr. Russell Kirk. He was fond of quoting a friend of his as saying, “The United States Constitution is not for export.”

Well put. George W. never seemed to get that.

35 posted on 12/10/2015 4:13:49 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: FourPeas

“The United States Constitution is not for export.”

When we first invaded Iraq, there was a news clip from a bombed-out village that has remained stuck in my mind to this day.

An Iraqi woman was yelling at the camera — through a translator —
“You Americans cannot, will not ever, understand our culture. We don’t want your democracy here. It is not our way.”


71 posted on 12/10/2015 6:50:33 PM PST by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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