I know my stance is not popular, but I have been in pro locker rooms. The rules are stated clearly. Everyone sees them, every time they enter or leave the room.
Gambling will ruin the game. Especially when managers are involved.
My position on this remains, the day he dies he should be voted into the hall. His accomplishments deserve that. His behavior excludes him while he is alive.
I know it sucks for him. But he knew the rules and he chose to ignore them.
Agree, lifetime ban
“I know it sucks for him. But he knew the rules and he chose to ignore them.”
I’m with you.
I second your statement.
Yep.
What if the Black Sox had thrown the series because they were drug addicts and been blackmailed into doing it? Would we now have a lifetime ban for those who used illegal narcotics? Didn't all those coke addicts from back in the day also put themselves in a position to endanger the integrity of the game by exposing themselves to blackmail?
Cobb bet on baseball, beat women, mercilessly beat a black grounds keeper simply for speaking to him. If Rose is kept out of the Hall, Cobb should be removed.
Pete is a great player but a horrible person, the Hall is full of guys like that.
IMHO this is as much about Rose’s sustained multi-decade lie as it is about the offense itself.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but he did this as manager, right? Fine . . . let him in as a player. He was one of the best that ever played.
What about players who used steroids?
I agree with you, with one caveat: Shoeless Joe Jackson needs to go in first.