Posted on 01/03/2016 3:52:43 PM PST by annalex
The number of people in the picture for the downing of flight MH17 is reduced to twenty Russian soldiers. They know which of them on July 17 2014 the Buk missile fired at the unit of Malaysia Airlines.
That says Eliot Higgins, founder of the international collective research Bellingcat in an interview with NOS. The network of citizen journalists urged through social media and other public Internet resources on the military.
A comprehensive report containing their names and photographs has Bellingcat two weeks ago given to the Dutch Public Prosecution Service. That leads to the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) the criminal investigation occurs in the sinking of the MH17.
The prosecution says it has received information from Bellingcat. All names and other data through the JIT will "be seriously considered, examined and assessed on their suitability for the criminal investigation," said a spokesman.
Bellingcat works with the JIT investigators from the Netherlands, Belgium, Malaysia, Ukraine and Australia. Higgins and other employees have given during conversations information to the JIT. Higgins is also twice as a witness: last summer and in the autumn of 2014.
One of them is Sergey M., the commander of the 53rd brigade. Because of his position he "certainly played a role in the downing of flight MH17 because his brigade's 'weapon' has done," said Bellingcat.
Other stakeholders are Dmitry T., the commander of the Second Battalion, and nine lieutenants who were in charge within the battalion in 2014 Buk-air defense missile systems. Also, some "very experienced soldiers" in the picture that had been trained to operate a Buk-missile system.
"They need to know who has pressed the button on them. They should also know who the orders given for the firing of the missile," Higgins says from his small office in Leicester. Bellingcat know exactly who these men are. "We their photos and names and mountains with other information online to find them. "
Higgins did the research together with eleven volunteers from many countries, including the Netherlands, Germany, Poland and the United States. For a year she strolled down sites such as Instagram, Twitter and Vkontakte, the Russian Facebook.
Through attendance lists, messages, videos and photos they could structure the 53th Brigade and the Second Battalion mapping, including the names of the military.
Bellingcat sent the entire investigation in late December to the JIT. "The researchers do not tell what they are doing with our information. But they have previously indicated there to be happy, and to take us seriously."
"That is to know that, because the JIT has our discovery of the trailer in which the Russian Buk missile system is transported even used in an online call witnesses." The call was made in a Russian-language video with English subtitles.
"They can take away their social media profile and delete other tracks. That way we could bring the criminal investigation. That's the last thing we want," said Higgins.
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So, what was the motive / reason for shooting I down?
It was an accident. They thought it was a Ukrainian plane.
From what I read, all the airlines vectored around Ukraine for this very reason. Except for Malaysia Air which failed to do so.
Their body count approached 600 for that year.
Flying into a war zone is usually unwise. Malaysia Air didn’t read the memo.
Your assertion is not true. What is true is that some, but not all, airlines were avoiding this airspace.
The airspace was not closed to commercial traffic, and I believe that most airlines continued to use it until the shoot-down. I think the record will show that traffic passed through this area immediately before and after MH117.
According to data from the flight-tracking company FlightRadar24, there were 55 planes that flew over eastern Ukraine around where Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 was hit on Thursday, including those from Qatar, Emirates, Etihad, Austrian Airlines, Thai Airways, Jet Airways and Pakistan International Airways.
A Singapore Airlines flight from Copenhagen to Singapore was within 15 miles of Flight 17 at the time of the crash.
Link: http://mashable.com/2014/07/18/ukraine-planes-conflict-zones/#gJculsjfZiqx
"They need to know who has pressed the button on them. They should also know who the orders given for the firing of the missile"
Observe: Bellingcat does not know who shot MH17 down and for what reason. But Bellingcat has evidence of chain of possession of the Buk weapon.
The prevailing theory is that the Russian military loaned the weapon to the separatists (with or without the personnel capable of aiming it properly), who then shot it at the airliner mistaking it for a Ukrainian military plane. The crew of the Buk are identified in the investigation and they should be able to corroborate or controvert this theory.
The airspace was not closed. The altitude of the flight was assumed safe.
That's interesting, because even on that global flight-tracking website, you could see all the international flights flying over the same area.
Thanks annalex.
Nor did the other 100+ flights that flew over the same region.
Yeah, this is correct. The “safe ceiling” was something like FL25, and commercial flights tend to be FL30+.
That changed when the Russians brought in Buk, which nobody really knew was there (or being used, at least) until MH17 was shot down.
I mean FL250/FL300 of course.
My guess is that they just wanted to play with their new "toy." Probably drunk.
As I remember it, they thought it was an AN-26 which is capable of FL250 or so but no higher.
Here’s the intercept transcript release by Ukraine: http://www.ibtimes.com/mh17-crash-full-transcript-alleged-phone-intercepts-between-russian-intelligence-1631992
Thing is, MH17 would have been a lot higher that an AN-26 is capable of, plus it had its blasted transponder on. There’s no excuse.
Drunk and Russian is no way to go through life, son.
You answered your own question. They did not figure much. After watching a few videos of these "rebels" one gets the idea that those people are not strong at figuring anything. Anyone who gave them anything more powerful than bows and arrows committed a crime against humanity.
Another masterstroke by Putin, imo. He got some of his human trash off the streets of Moscow by paying them to go to E. Ukraine. Now they are stuck there, and Putin doesn’t care one whit about it.
There were locals, too. Remember that Donbass is an economically depressed region, dependent solely on coal extraction and metallurgy for revenue and with high unemployment. That is the human material criminals and insurgents are made everywhere.
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