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Carpenter: The Really Precarious Thing About Trump’s Birther Claims
Conservative Review ^ | January 6th, 2016 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 01/06/2016 8:20:35 PM PST by Isara

The only thing funnier than Donald Trump’s birther claims about Ted Cruz is the media’s demand that Cruz take them seriously.

Trump’s suggestion that Cruz’s birth potentially presents a “precarious” situation for the GOP should Cruz become the nominee is silly. And a silly attack deserves a silly response, which Cruz delivered in the form of a tweet of the Fonz from Happy Days” jumping the shark.

However, Trump has every reason to have the word “precarious” on the brain

“Precarious” means “dangerously likely to fall or collapse.” That doesn’t describe the circumstances of Cruz’s birth; it describes Trump’s inflated position that is “dangerously likely to fall or collapse” as soon as the primaries begin next month.

Trump, who doesn’t hesitate to attack anyone, hasn’t figured out how to successfully attack Cruz who is his biggest threat, according to the polls that Trump depends on as the lifeblood of his campaign. 

Last month, Trump attempted hitting Cruz from the left by criticizing him for opposing ethanol subsidies and calling him a “maniac” for failing to make enough friends in Washington. That backfired as the conservative base of the party defended Cruz on both counts. So now Trump is toying with the idea of going full birther against Cruz; a ploy Trump used to great media effect against Barack Obama in the 2008 election.

Trump, after all, was the biggest, most-well known Obama birther in the world. He takes credit for forcing Obama to finally produce a birth certificate. (Something Cruz has already done, by the way. Cruz gave it to the Dallas Morning News in 2013.)

Crazy birther claims got a crazy amount of media attention in the 2008 election, and Trump, the unabashed maestro of media controversies, is all too happy for a repeat.

Why let the truth get in the way of a tried and tested conspiracy theory?

Although, to his credit, this time around Trump isn’t going all in. (Yet.)

Trump is suggesting, very loudly, that this is something other people may be concerned about. Those other people, however, aren’t putting their names in public. Except for known kook Alan Grayson and Trump-defender Ann Coulter, who in 2013 said Cruz WAS eligible to be President.

If anyone is interested in the legal merits of Cruz’s citizenship, President Obama’s Acting Solicitor General Neil Katyal and President Bush’s Solicitor General Paul Clement co-authored a piece in March 2015 for the Harvard Law Review titled “The Meaning of Natural Born Citizen.”

In it, they wrote:

Senator Ted Cruz, was born in a Canadian hospital to a U.S. citizen mother. Despite the happenstance of a birth across the border, there is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a “natural born Citizen” within the meaning of the Constitution. Indeed, because his father had also been resident in the United States, Senator Cruz would have been a “natural born Citizen” even under the Naturalization Act of 1790.

There you have it. Top lawyers for both the Obama and Bush administrations say there is “no question” about it.

In fact, Trump seemed to agree with these top lawyers when he was asked about Cruz’s citizenship at a rally Trump and Cruz appeared at together last September. “I hear it was checked out by every attorney and every which way and I understand Ted is in fine shape,” Trump said.

Odd, huh? Both Trump and Trump-supporter Coulter once believed Cruz was eligible and now they don’t think he is.

What changed? Is Trump getting different legal advice today? From Ann Coulter, perhaps?

No. The only thing that’s changed is Cruz’s position in the polls as the calendar approaches the GOP primaries.

Trump is still searching for a way to knock Cruz off his game. Unfortunately for Trump, and all the campaign reporters hanging on his every word, Cruz is too smart to take the bait.

There are much more important things going on in the world besides Trump’s latest outburst. How about North Korea’s newfound nuclear capabilities? ISIS? The growing Saudi-Iranian hostilities? The stock market declining? President Obama’s latest gun grab? The frightening list goes on and on.

It’s refreshing to see that someone running for president has higher priorities than taking out Donald Trump.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birtherclaims; canadian; cruz; cruzpropaganda; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; neilkatyal; paulclement; tcruz; tedcruz
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"There are much more important things going on in the world besides Trump’s latest outburst. How about North Korea’s newfound nuclear capabilities? ISIS? The growing Saudi-Iranian hostilities? The stock market declining? President Obama’s latest gun grab? The frightening list goes on and on."
1 posted on 01/06/2016 8:20:35 PM PST by Isara
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2 posted on 01/06/2016 8:23:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne ((It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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3 posted on 01/06/2016 8:23:45 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Trumpee Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: Isara

Another reason to dismiss “Conservative Review” and its “objective” pronouncements of what is and isn’t conservatism. CR has a Ted Cruz speech writer on the payroll. I think also David Horowitz, another Cruz-sycophant, is a member as well.

CR going all gung-ho against “Birtherism” despite millions of conservatives having researched heavily Obama’s birth issues for years isn’t going to help Ted Cruz.


4 posted on 01/06/2016 8:25:24 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Isara
I am a Cruz first guy.

Does anyone here think if he gets the nomination that the media and the dems will let this issue stand and just go away nicey nice?

5 posted on 01/06/2016 8:26:18 PM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Isara

“There you have it. Top lawyers for both the Obama and Bush administrations say there is “no question” about it.”


I feel warm and cozy all over.


6 posted on 01/06/2016 8:27:18 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: Isara

Presidential Candidates Comparison (Cruz vs. Trump)

Please click on the pictures at the top of the columns for more details on the ratings of the candidates.

green = Good, RED = Bad, yellow = Mixed Ted Cruz Donald Trump
Budget, Spending & Debt green yellow
Civil Liberties green RED
Education green green
Energy & Environment green green
Foreign Policy & Defense green green
Free Market yellow RED
Health Care & Entitlements green RED
Immigration green green
Moral Issues green yellow
Second Amendment green yellow
Taxes, Economy & Trade green yellow

More at Conservative Review: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates

Note: If you don't like the ratings for any reason, please contact Conservative Review's Editor-in-Chief, "The Great One," Mark Levin. But I have to warn you that you may get this response from him: "GET OFF THE PHONE, YOU BIG DOPE!"

7 posted on 01/06/2016 8:27:59 PM PST by Isara
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"There are much more important things going on in the world besides Trump’s latest outburst. How about North Korea’s newfound nuclear capabilities?

Cruz had a fantastic presser about the Korean situation and all we hear about is this B.S. Trump is playing games and the world around us is not.

8 posted on 01/06/2016 8:29:16 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Isara

Trump keeps jumping the shark because “The only thing that’s changed is Cruz’s position in the polls as the calendar approaches the GOP primaries” Says it all.

Cruz surge will continue to skyrocket.


9 posted on 01/06/2016 8:30:13 PM PST by gwgn02
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To: Starstruck

Trump answered a question

He didn’t initiate anything

He also did Cruz a favor by removing this issue from those that can be used against him


10 posted on 01/06/2016 8:33:47 PM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardiner chatting with friends)
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To: Isara

I heard this crap on Levin tonight. I have never heard such blithering ignorance of the law. Levin was so nervous about the factual discussion he would “not take calls” on the subject. You can’t make that up.
Let me tell you something Mark . This is deadly serious. The Democrats are already threatening Federal suits in friendly courts. You don’t just wish this away like a liability suit after a car wreck. Cruz was not born on US soil. He is not eligible, in my opinion to be president under Article II — but maybe I’m wrong, so let CRUZ find out with the proper declaratory judgment in a federal court that he picks out rather that in Florida where the Democrats want to file it. But its not going away , Mark and it doesn’t matter if you take calls or anything you do in ignorance. This is a huge issue that must be resolve my Cruz or it will be a disaster ,even if he were to be asked by Trump to be Vice President. GET THIS RULED ON NOW!!


11 posted on 01/06/2016 8:35:38 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Isara

Based on all the ink on this topic, Trump is right.


12 posted on 01/06/2016 8:36:31 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Isara

Concise article. I am thankful that average voters will mostly look at facts and discard Trump.
Did you know that in NH poll released today head to head Cruz versus Trump, Cruz beat Trump, I think by 6 points? And 44% of the gop polled in same poll have negative opinion of Trump.


13 posted on 01/06/2016 8:38:21 PM PST by libbylu
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To: Lakeshark
Does anyone here think if he gets the nomination that the media and the dems will let this issue stand and just go away nicey nice?

Not a chance.

14 posted on 01/06/2016 8:40:21 PM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Fai Mao
Trump answered a question

So in essence you are saying Trump took the bait and ran with it. He didn't answer the same way he had in the past when he said it wasn't an issue. He decided to make it an issue.

15 posted on 01/06/2016 8:42:19 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Lakeshark

It will go non stop, they will sacrifice Obama, open his sealed records and compare to Cruz, they will more than likely demand Cruz to take a socialistic Canadian stance as well.

Its chum for the media sharks.


16 posted on 01/06/2016 8:42:26 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Trump to win! He wins, we win, the nation wins!)
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To: Fai Mao

Cruz will lose Iowa bad now. People are not going to vote for a possible ineligible candidate until it is resolved. I have said this here for months. I urged Cruz to get this resolve 4 months ago but the denials go on. — then rage — then acceptance.


17 posted on 01/06/2016 8:43:51 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: gwgn02

What Cruz surge? I don’t see one. He’s down in both NH polls that came out today and in today’s Reuters 5-day Trump is 42 and Cruz 14. That’s a 28 point gap so Ted lost ground there too. The last day of the 5-day sample Trump was at 55.


18 posted on 01/06/2016 8:43:57 PM PST by TexasCruzin ( He always hits back.)
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To: Raycpa
Your STUPIDITY is showing.

TED CRUZ is by far, the MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE we've got ! So there is the law for the time Ted Cruz was born,
AND HOW Ted Cruz's PARENTS fulfilled ALL those requirements of the law that time, for Ted Cruz to be a "Natural Born Citizen".
Ted Cruz did NOT NEED a Court and a Judge to "Nationalize" him. Oh, one more thing:
19 posted on 01/06/2016 8:44:49 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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20 posted on 01/06/2016 8:46:38 PM PST by mkjessup (Islam is the ENEMY of all civilized people. Obama is a Muslim. What's that tell ya?!?)
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