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Trump won’t drop birther question, and Ted Cruz is fighting back
McClatchy DC ^ | January 10th, 2016 | By Maria Recio

Posted on 01/10/2016 10:34:45 PM PST by Mariner

WASHINGTON -

Canadian-born Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, continued to come under fire Sunday over whether he is a “natural born citizen” eligible to be U.S. president.

Cruz, a lawyer, has said that his citizenship is “settled law” and on CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday said it is “clear and straightforward” that he became a U.S. citizen at birth in Calgary because his mother was a U.S. citizen. His presidential primary campaign even released his mother’s U.S. birth certificate over the weekend - after denying she had become a Canadian citizen, although her name appears on a 1974 Canadian federal election voter roll.

But Republican national frontrunner Donald Trump, who stoked the issue last week by saying that Democrats would sue if Cruz was the nominee and ensnare the election, continued to press his case on several Sunday news programs that the foreign birth was “a problem” that the Supreme Court ought to decide.

Asked about his eligibility as a citizen on CNN Sunday, Cruz said, “The substance of the issue is clear and straightforward. As a legal matter, the Constitution and federal law are clear that the child of a U.S. citizen born abroad is a natural-born citizen.”

Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, in 1970 when his Cuban father, Rafael Cruz, and American-born mother, Eleanor Cruz, were living and working in the oil industry. However, his father became a Canadian citizen, as Rafael Cruz told NPR in 2013. And both his and Cruz’s mother’s names appear on Canadian voter rolls in May, 1974, in documents obtained by McClatchy. Only Canadian citizens are eligible to vote in that country.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; whatstedscaredof; whyistedafraid
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I know everyone has an opinion on the merits of the matter. No reason to go through it again.

But, who think Ted Cruz will have to stand in a Federal Court defending this? Whether it's a state that refuses access to the ballot, or a Grayson suit in Fed court?

1 posted on 01/10/2016 10:34:45 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

I’m a Cruzer and will remain so.

That said he should have done that before he even started running. And I said so at the time. Too late now so he’s going to do it the hard way. But he will do it.


2 posted on 01/10/2016 10:37:52 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Mariner

The USSC would likely say it’s a ‘political question’ and not address it - as they did with Obama.

They can also exclude anyone bringing the suit for not having standing. Another way of punting.

After ‘gay marriage’ was made law of the land is there any doubt the Constitution matters at this point?


3 posted on 01/10/2016 10:37:56 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Mariner

Or a defrauded donor.


4 posted on 01/10/2016 10:38:56 PM PST by Ray76
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If one has to be a canadian citizen to vote in canada and Cruz's mother is listed on the voter rolls in Canada then it's pretty clear she was a Canadian citizen.

This would have gone to court whether or not Trump said anything. It's just too juicy a target and the Democrats have NO qualms about going for the jugular.

5 posted on 01/10/2016 10:39:39 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: Mariner

I know everyone has an opinion on the merits of the matter. No reason to go through it again.

But, who think Ted Cruz will have to stand in a Federal Court defending this? Whether it’s a state that refuses access to the ballot, or a Grayson suit in Fed court?

I don’t Ted is a Natural Born Citizen!!!


6 posted on 01/10/2016 10:40:55 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: TigerClaws
The USSC would likely say it's a 'political question' and not address it - as they did with Obama.

Didn't McCain go to Congress and get certified as eligible and can't Cruz do the same thing?
7 posted on 01/10/2016 10:41:50 PM PST by JoSixChip
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And why would he risk throwing the country into a constitutional crisis like that? I don't like it that he's gambling with our stability like this. Not one bit. Anyone can claim anything. Document it, air tight, so that there is NO doubt, NO insecurity. And no way in the whole, wide world that the democrats have a leg to stand on. Eliminate every possibility. Unless he can't.
8 posted on 01/10/2016 10:43:13 PM PST by KGeorge (grrr hit the tab key again I will miss my beautiful girls for the rest of my life)
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To: DouglasKC

Thing is, plenty of illegals here are on voter rolls and they arent citizens so what does it really prove? Are there Canadian records she was naturalized as a Canadian and there for the required time to bestow citizenship on TC?

My understanding is no.


9 posted on 01/10/2016 10:43:23 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Mariner

Watch Fox News Sunday interview today of Donald Trump.
Trump answers the questions about Ted Cruz’s eligibility.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/10/trump-says-cruz-should-resolve-citizenship-issue-can-compete-with-clinton.html


10 posted on 01/10/2016 10:43:37 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: tallyhoe

The foreign-born child of a U.S. citizen mother in 1874 was not a U.S. citizen.

The foreign-born child of a U.S. citizen mother in 1970 may become a U.S. citizen, provided conditions are met.

Exact same circumstances, completely different outcomes.

The terms of Congressional grants change from time to time. Naturalization statutes can require any process or none, any retention requirements or none, include certain classes of persons or exclude them. Congressional grants are naturalization.


11 posted on 01/10/2016 10:46:08 PM PST by Ray76
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To: tallyhoe

Your opinion has no more standing than mine.

Only a federal judge or better yet SCOTUS ruling has legal standing. Rest is just Hot Air and irrelevant. Trump is right. This must be clarified to a court of law before general election.


12 posted on 01/10/2016 10:47:31 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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No he isn't.

To be a NBC, you have to have TWO parents who are America CITIZENS at the time of your birth.

This IS what the government, OUR GOVERNMENT tells those who are studying to become NATURALIZED CITIZENS OF AMERICA.

13 posted on 01/10/2016 10:48:10 PM PST by nopardons
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To: entropy12

Article II, Section 1: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


14 posted on 01/10/2016 10:49:07 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: KGeorge
He would be the very first foreign born nominee for POTUS.

I would prefer to see the USSC give their opinion before we proceed.

Some argue that McCain was born off base in Panama. And equate that with Cruz.

The big difference is all records indicate McCain was born in the hospital on the Naval Base to two citizen parents and never held the citizenship of another country.

And Canadian citizenship would make Cruz totally unique for that second reason.

15 posted on 01/10/2016 10:49:49 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: JoSixChip

Yes and yes, but Ted though a citizen at birth, is NOT a NBC because of his father!


16 posted on 01/10/2016 10:49:50 PM PST by nopardons
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But, who think Ted Cruz will have to stand in a Federal Court defending this?

You must have very little faith in his intelligence. Do you really think he didn't expect this attack?

17 posted on 01/10/2016 10:49:57 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Ray76

The foreign-born child of a U.S. citizen mother in 1874 was not a U.S. citizen.

The foreign-born child of a U.S. citizen mother in 1970 may become a U.S. citizen, provided conditions are met.

Exact same circumstances, completely different outcomes.

The terms of Congressional grants change from time to time. Naturalization statutes can require any process or none, any retention requirements or none, include certain classes of persons or exclude them. Congressional grants are naturalization..

Article II, Section 1: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


18 posted on 01/10/2016 10:50:17 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Mariner

If Cruz’s mom became a Canadian citizen, was it before or after he was born?


19 posted on 01/10/2016 10:50:56 PM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: tallyhoe

Cruz is a naturalized citizen of the United States.


20 posted on 01/10/2016 10:51:09 PM PST by Ray76
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