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Clinton’s Emails: A Criminal Charge Is Justified (Michael Mukasey)
wsj.com ^ | Michael B. Mukasey

Posted on 01/22/2016 5:14:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux

The current news, reported in the Journal and elsewhere, is that her server contained information at the highest level of classification, known as SAP, or Special Access Program. This is a level so high that even the inspector general for the intelligence community who reported the discovery did not initially have clearance to examine it.

The server also contained messages showing her contempt for classification procedures. This was bred at least in part by obvious familiarity with exactly "how it works"--such as when, an email shows, she directed a staff member simply to erase the heading on a classified document, converting it into "unpaper," and send it on a "nonsecure" device.

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The FBI's criminal investigation of messages on the server initially related solely to Mrs. Clinton's possibly unlawful mishandling of classified information. The investigation has now metastasized to include "the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation donations, the dispensation of State Department contracts and whether regular processes were followed" as Fox News's Catherine Herridge reported Jan. 19, quoting an intelligence source.

Which is to say, the FBI wants to know whether those messages, combined with other evidence, show that donors to the Clinton Foundation received special consideration in their dealings with the agency Mrs. Clinton headed.

Whatever the findings from that part of the probe, intelligence-community investigators believe it is nearly certain that Mrs. Clinton's server was hacked, possibly by the Chinese or the Russians. This raises the distinct possibility that she would be subject to blackmail in connection with those transactions and whatever else was on that server by people with hostile intent against this country.

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1 posted on 01/22/2016 5:14:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

I am pretty sure everyone (sane) knows that Hillary!’s behavior justifies charges, but who thinks the Obama (in)Justice Department would actually investigate and prosecute?


2 posted on 01/22/2016 5:30:47 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: RoosterRedux

Her handling of SAP documents is so sloppy I got one and thought it was spam.

One more document release and the string holding her together will break and she will fall through her own backside.

And then Al Gore, Jr will have a twin.


3 posted on 01/22/2016 5:36:56 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Little Ray
"...but who thinks the Obama (in)Justice Department would actually investigate and prosecute?"

The FBI may force her hand - either Hillary is indicted, or the venerable FBI loses all credibility - a lot of proud FBI-lifers may not allow that to happen.

4 posted on 01/22/2016 5:41:33 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

The FBI has credibility left?
In any case, who says that undermining the FBI is not part of the Obama plan?


5 posted on 01/22/2016 5:43:13 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: RoosterRedux

Posting a piece by an anti-Trumper, shame on you! /s

MICHAEL B. MUKASEY

For a hint of why a Donald Trump presidency would imperil our national security, consider just a couple of Trump’s suggestions for protecting us against Islamist terrorists. He would start with a “temporary” ban on the entry of alien Muslims into the United States until “our leaders can figure out what the hell is going on.” This prescription overlooks that many people already have figured out precisely “what the hell is going on”—that we face a supremacist movement based in Islam that is intent on destroying Western civilization—and have intelligent suggestions for dealing with it. Moreover, Trump’s proposal would assure the enmity of all Muslims, including those whose support we need if we are to prevail. Even assuming an infallible way to identify who is Muslim, the proposal is both under- and over-inclusive. It is under-inclusive because it does not address potential terrorists who have U.S. passports or residence permits, or are already here, or may threaten us abroad; it is over-inclusive because it bars the huge majority of Muslims who are not potential terrorists. Trump says he would order the military to kill the families of terrorists. That would be a direct violation of the most basic laws of armed conflict, which require that deadly force be used only when required by military necessity, under circumstances that allow distinction between military and civilian targets, and when incidental damage to non-military targets is proportional to the military advantage gained. A military that adhered to the laws of armed conflict would necessarily disobey such an order; if it followed the order, both the person who gave it and those who followed it would be subject to prosecution for war crimes. We have already suffered seven years of feckless leadership that has invited the contempt of our enemies and the distrust of our friends. We remain the world’s strongest power and can recover; but to inspire the respect that creates fear and trust when and where each is necessary, we will need a president who summons our strength with a reality-based strategic vision, not one who summons applause with tantrums and homicidal fantasies.

— Michael B. Mukasey served as U.S. attorney general from 2007 to 2009


6 posted on 01/22/2016 5:48:31 AM PST by pookie18 (10 months until the general election...)
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To: Psalm 73

you left out a step......

as I understand the process, the FBI makes a criminal referral but the AG makes the indictment. She will make a prosecutorial decision as to whether an indictment will be handed down

justice will not be served if Hillary remains alive


7 posted on 01/22/2016 5:53:59 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: bert

Once again it’s “talk, talk, talk” about Clinton deserving criminal charges and once again, NO ONE has done a damn thing about it nor will they. Hitlary will continue on her merry way towards becoming the first woman (?) president and still no charges........Nothing to see here, move along.


8 posted on 01/22/2016 6:04:15 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Little Ray; Psalm 73
...who says that undermining the FBI is not part of the Obama plan?

Bingo.

It is the MAD model brought from the international level to the individual level. Each has a counter balancing contract v their ultimate threat.

O has Justice under his control and arguably the Pentagon (compare his firing of top brass with Stalin's purge of his officer corps)

Emasculating the FBI, if O hasn't already done so, would be a mere bump in the road in order to survive.

My money says Hillary walks so long as O is in office.

9 posted on 01/22/2016 6:11:58 AM PST by frog in a pot (Evil are those who would deprive fellow humans of the means of self-defense.)
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To: bert
"you left out a step......"

No, I think we all understand that the FBI is strictly investigative and only an Attorney's General can actually bring an indictment.
There are 150 agents working the Hillary case alone - in lieu of Martial Law, there are still some things Obozo cannot do.

10 posted on 01/22/2016 6:21:19 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: frog in a pot

Unfortunately, Hillary! would walk no matter who is in office.
Can’t have one of the Lords of the Realm discredited and disrespected, can we?
We are returning to a feudal system, with one set of laws for the rulers and another for us peasants.


11 posted on 01/22/2016 6:21:39 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: frog in a pot

If the FBI wants to maintain any credibility they will make a referral. Barry will only be around for another year and I’ll bet they don’t want to see her become CIC. I really doubt they’re all in the tank for Obama.


12 posted on 01/22/2016 6:31:14 AM PST by surrey
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To: Little Ray
Unfortunately, Hillary! would walk no matter who is in office. Can't have one of the Lords of the Realm discredited and disrespected, can we?

Profoundly disagree. But then I remain an optimist (and not naively, if that means a battle to be fought, bring it).

I do not believe either Trump or Cruz would restrict the normal efforts of Justice or the FBI, and they certainly wouldn't give her a pardon. Admittedly, such view is based on the belief that neither would be effectively influenced by the same folks that influence Hillary and O.

13 posted on 01/22/2016 6:43:31 AM PST by frog in a pot (What if a previous liberal D says most of the things we are not hearing from the R candidates?)
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To: surrey

Good point. And, a question-—any more info re Catherine Herridge’s tweet last night re FBI recovering Hillary ‘ s “wiped” emails?


14 posted on 01/22/2016 6:44:50 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: surrey
I really doubt they're all in the tank for Obama.

And so you should, but the controlling issue (from their perspective) is whether an O pardon will effectively protect her once he is out of office.

The next certainty is that both the Clinton and the O machines are hard at work to prepare a legally enforceable pardon; it is, after all, to their mutual benefit. In that regard, it is both ironic and quite unfortunate that tax payers are funding the effort by the O machine.

15 posted on 01/22/2016 6:58:01 AM PST by frog in a pot (What if a previous liberal D says most of the things we are not hearing from the R candidates?)
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To: pookie18

As a “former” counterterrorism officer, I have heard and countered this argument for years, including my time detailed to the White House for 15 months after 9/11. Mukasey’s argument, like those of many bureacrats and academicians who have never had first-hand exposure to the “peaceful and loving” aspects of Islam, is based upon an errant assumption that there are some - maybe a majority of - Muslims who actually like us and that, by doing things like imposing a moratorium on Muslim immigration, those who like us will no longer.

To put a fine point on it, that argument is horseshit. While we may have relatively normal relations with a few countries, e.g., Jordan, in the Islamic world, Jordanians (who are predominantly Muslim) do not necessarily “like” us or respect us - especially now. In the case of Saudi Arabia, a country with which we have “questionable” relations, Saudi citizens by and large despise not only us, but people from any nation they consider “Christians”. Furthermore, actions like banning or placing a moratorium on immigration from certain countries is widely practiced within the Islamic world itself; witness the refusal of most Islamic countries to accept Palestinian immigrants.

I had the “pleasure” of having some “discussions” with PhD types from the Kennedy School (which I also attended, by the way) who held with Mukasey’s view. Unbeknownst to me at the time, a LOT of members of the National Security Council staff rotate back and forth between the NSC and the hallowed halls of Ivy League schools, returning at a higher position each time until they become the National Security Advisor or his/her deputy. In a fit of frustration, I found out from GEN (retired) Wayne Downing at one point that it’s not acceptable to ask a Harvard PhD, “What have you ever actually done?” Not that GEN Downing disagreed with me, mind you.


16 posted on 01/22/2016 7:08:29 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: frog in a pot

I am pretty certain that no subsequent administration will prosecute Hillary! for the simple reason that it might set a precedent of prosecuting members of the previous administration for their policies.
The fact that Hillary! actually broke laws would not change the appearence.
Once this precedent is set, nobody dares relinquish their grip on power for fear of being prosecuted by their successors. So far we have avoided this state, but if don’t, a civil war is likely to follow.


17 posted on 01/22/2016 7:17:03 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: RoosterRedux

Possible scenario?

1. Barry will pull the plug, she will be indicted and drop out of the 2016 race.

2. Biden will reconsider his decision and enter the race “for the good of the country and the party”.

3 He will pick the fake indian, Warren, as his running mate. This will bring all the Bernie supporters on the bus plus the all the women who only care about having a vagina in the White House. They will only have to sit tight for a few years because Biden will keep them on board by committing to a single term with the plan that Warren will succeed him. Also, there’s the possibility he won’t make it through a full term and Warren will assume the Presidency.

4. Barry as one of his last acts as POTUS will pardon Hitlery saying that her service to the country transcends her poor judgement with the emails.

5. Biden will have a good chance to win the Presidency because the Romney 47% is still out there and even growing in size. Even though he’s a doofus, he’s a likeable doofus.


18 posted on 01/22/2016 7:39:00 AM PST by golf lover (goingf)
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To: Little Ray

There is, of course, quite a difference between the threat of being prosecuted for policies (if such is even possible) and being prosecuted for felonies greatly affecting the national interest. But, it appears we may disagree.


19 posted on 01/22/2016 7:40:27 AM PST by frog in a pot (What if a previous liberal D says most of the things we are not hearing from the R candidates?)
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To: golf lover

That’s precisely my thinking except I believe Trump will mop the floor with Biden.


20 posted on 01/22/2016 7:43:16 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light - John Milton, Paradise Lost)
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