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To: Texas Eagle
Footage is from too far away to tell if Finicum was reaching into his jacket or just clutching at where he'd been shot.

Considering that one of the troopers came out of the woods does seem to lend credence to the notion that this was an ambush.

2 posted on 01/28/2016 7:52:28 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

This video proves nothing.


10 posted on 01/28/2016 8:09:06 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: Texas Eagle

I can’t find the video again but it looked like he had his hands up and then grabbed his body. I guess he could have been going for a gun but why, he had exited with hands high?

I’ll have to find it and watch it again.


20 posted on 01/28/2016 8:15:11 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Texas Eagle
I dont know if he was clutching his body because he was shot by the man in front of him, but the guy that came out of the woods shot him in the back. And what the heck was the guy doing jumping out from behind cover into the path of the oncoming vehicle??!!
23 posted on 01/28/2016 8:18:41 PM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Texas Eagle

My observations at this time from viewing the ‘edited’ 8:03 version.

Appears edited AND spliced, maybe from different sources (if so where are they).

The black bars and crosshairs could be an overlay to make the video seem to be from the same source and give the impression of continuity.

What is the time reference for the upper left clock? I don’t think it is Pacific Std time. If so this would be about 1/2 hour after midnight.

At the first stop I see hands outside the passenger window, then withdrawn, so it is not the outside mirror.

On the driver side I see at least one arm outside, in addition to the mirror. Then the view is cut off by the tree.

At the final stop, the agent jumped in front of the PU too late for the PU to stop or turn out of the way.

Notice the ‘tracks’ along the tree line on the left side of the road, near the trees, but far from the pristene snow closer to the highway. What are they? Who made them? When? The shooter came out of the trees and over these tracks.

I could not see any bullet holes in PU.

Not conclusive he was reaching for a gun (let’s see it and the registered SN). Not conclusive that he was not.

Sad.

For me, any further stories should jive with my observations above.


39 posted on 01/28/2016 8:28:52 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: Texas Eagle

If you look closely at the video, there’s a guy in the middle of the vehicles that looks like he’s got a video camera up to his right eye, and he’s only 25 feet to the right of Finicum.


41 posted on 01/28/2016 8:30:43 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Texas Eagle
Footage is from too far away to tell if Finicum was reaching into his jacket or just clutching at where he'd been shot.

Good point.

I didn't think of that.

45 posted on 01/28/2016 8:31:36 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Texas Eagle

There is no sound. 100’s of rounds could have been fired, between the initial encounter and the fatal shot at the roadblock.

The drone camera loses ‘picture’ at vital times.

When Finicum slid off into the snowbank, he hit a Swat FBI guy. To think that the FBI guys wouldn’t start shooting at the vehicle the instant that happened is beyond belief (or a miracle).

Finicum could have sustained one or two wounds, walked out of the vehicle, gotten shot again, reached into the wound, pulled one or both hands out, then reached in again, got shot for the final time.

Which would make more sense than believing that he reached into his coat , put his hands out/up again, didn’t have a weapon, then reached back in again, because he was reaching for that gun he didn’t have the first time.


46 posted on 01/28/2016 8:33:04 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Considering that one of the troopers came out of the woods does seem to lend credence to the notion that this was an ambush.

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It obviously was a roadblock for someone who was evading a legal stop. If he’d kept his hands up he’d still be alive.


88 posted on 01/28/2016 8:57:35 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Texas Eagle

It would not be surprising if police were yelling that utterly ridiculous command "STAND DOWN!" which has no place in a high-stress situation.

It is a senseless phrase that should be removed from the police lexicon immediately.


161 posted on 01/28/2016 10:35:21 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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