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To: Boardwalk
So if Cruz is magically American based on his mother's citizenship is he a magical Cuban citizen too?

Why are you so ignorant on the Constitution? Obviously if your parent is an American, you are a citizen at birth. Natural-born subjects in Britain before the U.S. was founded included children born to parents who were outside of Britain at the time. The founders knew the definition of the word and you can't change it after the fact like a liberal trying to rewrite the meaning of the Constitution to fit in abortion rights.

16 posted on 01/30/2016 11:24:39 AM PST by JediJones ("How stupid are the people of Iowa?" -Donald Trump, November 12, 2015)
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To: JediJones

It is not settled. He still can’t be potus!


24 posted on 01/30/2016 11:27:37 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: JediJones

Natural born is a requirement in the Constitution that is defined in the Naturalization Act of 1790. It defines it as birth from citizen parents. Cruz’s father was not a citizen.


39 posted on 01/30/2016 11:37:13 AM PST by odawg
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To: JediJones

No its not obvious. Its not even obvious that children born in the country to non citizens are citizens. There are laws and statutes and its not just about obvious because obvious is often wrong.

Ted Cruz is undoubtedly a citizen because he has traveled on a US passport. However the provenience of his citizenship is not obvious because as someone not born on American soil to two citizen parents or to one citizen parent and a legal immigrant who is in the process of naturalization, he is not an American citizen at birth. He is an American citizen only after he/his parents provide the Consulate or the Dept of Immigration/Naturalization with proof that he meets the statutes governing the awarding of citizenship to those born outside of America. Those documents are not available for review, only his Canadian birth certificate has been released.


66 posted on 01/30/2016 12:00:35 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: JediJones
'Obviously if your parent is an American, you are a citizen at birth.'

Absurd. Obviously, there is more to it. We left behind hundreds of 'citizens' in the form of children born to men stationed in Vietnam who had children with locals. Or children born from US tourists overseas have just as right to run for the Presidency as someone born in the USA.

68 posted on 01/30/2016 12:02:02 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: JediJones

Natural born on foreign soil only if BOTH parents are citizens. And, it generally means on US protectorates, not a foreign country where you’re also an automatic citizen of that country with divided loyalties.

Avoiding divided loyalties was the whole point of the NBC claus.

Show me where in the Constitution it says otherwise.


85 posted on 01/30/2016 12:13:25 PM PST by moonhawk (What would he do differently if he WAS a muslim?)
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