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Ted Cruz Positions on “Anchor Babies” and “Birthright Citizenship”…
theconservativetreehouse.com ^ | February 4, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 02/04/2016 7:52:23 PM PST by 867V309

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To: Souled_Out

“And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.”

Naturalization Act of 1790, the original congress, and the first time “Natural Born” is defined in US Law. Also the most stringent.

Cruz’s father was granted Asylum in the US immediately after leaving Cuba.


101 posted on 02/04/2016 9:16:31 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Duchess47

Right here in my pocket. WTH! Cruz mother was a US citizen from birth. It is ridiculous to doubt that she registered her sons birth at the consulate. I can’t believe how hard people are working to convolute a simple thing.


102 posted on 02/04/2016 9:16:53 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: kabar

The term was defined in 1790.


103 posted on 02/04/2016 9:18:28 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Elyse
Cruz mother wasn't a citizen of Canada. She had sworn no oath of allegiance to Canada

There is absolutely no proof of that and according to interviews that Ted has given, it is very possible his mother did. We know that his father became a Canadian citizen in 1973 & most likely, his mother also as they were both listed as electors in 1974. Sorry, but elections offices ONLY provide names of those who have applied to vote. And that is why I believe Cruz refuses to release to the voters, copies of the paper trail of his mother's naturalization back into the US, or the lack thereof, proving that the family has committed a HUGE felony. Really, Cruz Sr. does not become a US citizen until it is politically expedient for his son? Give me a break, I was not born yesterday.

104 posted on 02/04/2016 9:20:42 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
I was referring to the first paragraph. Rep. Steve King Introduces Bill That Would End Birthright Citizenship

The fact that Congress is trying to pass such legislation about conferring NBC is an example of how Congress knows that there is a problem. It is the reason why the Senate commissioned Ted Olson and Laurence Tribe to write an opinion on the eligibility of John McCain to run. The Senate issued a non-binding resolution saying he was. Interestingly, the Tribe/Olson opinion gratuitously mentioned that Obama was eligible because he was born in Hawaii.

The issue of NBC needs to be litigated sooner rather than later. It is not settled law.

105 posted on 02/04/2016 9:20:54 PM PST by kabar
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To: Elyse

I have no doubt Cruz’s mother was an American citizen. If you have a copy of her registration of his birth at the consulate I would like to see that. I have not been able to find it anywhere.


106 posted on 02/04/2016 9:21:06 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Elyse

" I'm sure they could get a social security card for a US citizen too "

Maybe, but it would require a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA) to be filed, which would prove he is a naturalized citizen.

Oh yeah, Ted, like Obama had those records sealed.

107 posted on 02/04/2016 9:22:28 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: lonestar67

...”Cruz is running because he is the best option this nation has had in decades”....

Very easy to say....”For such a time as our nation is”....


108 posted on 02/04/2016 9:22:54 PM PST by caww
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To: Electric Graffiti

It is part of US Code. It is why we issue the children of illegal aliens US passports and give them food stamps, Medicaid, and other welfare benefits. All you need to get a passport is a US BC.


109 posted on 02/04/2016 9:22:54 PM PST by kabar
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

We should be able to see it. I am sure he has such documentation since he has a US Passport.


110 posted on 02/04/2016 9:24:48 PM PST by kabar
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To: Souled_Out

Cruz didn’t have to be naturalized. its like beating your head against a wall.


111 posted on 02/04/2016 9:27:12 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Dead Dog

You do realize that you are referring to a law about ‘naturalized’ citizens, the key word ‘citizens’, the citizen father must have resided in the US. Many US citizen live abroad and have families. Sons born overseas who remain overseas when their children are born, having never established residency in the US, the children born to these father can only attain US citizenship via naturalization. THAT is what the law is telling us as it is a law governing immigration and naturalization.

So no, just because a foreigner resided in the country for a while, married a US citizen and then moved to another foreign country 4 yrs before their only child was born, that residency n the US means nothing as that foreigner had never even applied to become a US citizen prior to leaving and setting up lawful permanent residency in Canada, he and his American wife, BOTH were listed as lawful permanent residents of Canada when ted was born.


112 posted on 02/04/2016 9:28:12 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: kabar
The issue of NBC needs to be litigated sooner rather than later. It is not settled law.

The framers didn't define baby Jesus when they mentioned him in the Constitution either, but they correctly assumed we would know what they meant.

It seems Chief Justice Morrison Waite (and most school kids until the 70s) knew what NBC meant. Then the communists took control of everything.

113 posted on 02/04/2016 9:29:20 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Dead Dog

" Naturalization Act of 1790, "

Unfortunately, for Ted, time did not stop.

The same framers of the constitution created the Naturalization Act of 1795.

That was lame.

114 posted on 02/04/2016 9:29:39 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: doldrumsforgop
Birthright citizenship is based on jus solis. You don't have to apply for birthright citizenship like you do with jus sanguinis derivative citizenship. There are conditions for transmitting US citizenship via the parent(s).

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

115 posted on 02/04/2016 9:30:36 PM PST by kabar
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To: patlin
You say there is no proof of a negative, and then proceed to base your whole argument on something for which there is no proof.

Sorry, but elections offices ONLY provide names of those who have applied to vote.

This has been debunked so many times it is silly. The list was a preliminary list that was given to canvassers. It has been confirmed numerous times that having the name on the list did not mean the people had registered to vote. It was a list of "potential" electors - basically a list of people who lived in the area that might be potential voters. The job of the canvassers that used the list was to determine if the people actually lived in the district; if they were eligible to register and vote, and if the names were correct.

Give me a break, I was not born yesterday.

Perhaps not, but in your age certainly isn't an indication of intellectual ability.

116 posted on 02/04/2016 9:32:07 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: kabar

That’s the problem, these guys, instead of promoting the actual lawful application of the law as it is written, they stoop to lawyer tactics that only muddy the waters even further! And it ticks me off! We have enough laws on the books, we do not need any more, we just need to lawfully apply the ones we already have!


117 posted on 02/04/2016 9:32:14 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: kabar
I am sure he has such documentation since he has a US Passport.

You're sure? He allegedly didn't even know he was a Canadian, up until 14 months ago.

118 posted on 02/04/2016 9:32:57 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: patlin

your problem is you are skipping all over the place with discussions on naturalized, natural-born, birthright citizenship etc.

Saying no in your communications turns anyone off from reading further too.


119 posted on 02/04/2016 9:35:09 PM PST by doldrumsforgop
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Cruz has traveled abroad many times as a member of Codels. He has to have a US passport. He also has to be a US citizen to get various kinds of security clearances.


120 posted on 02/04/2016 9:35:20 PM PST by kabar
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