Posted on 02/12/2016 12:18:29 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Ted Cruz, Homeschooling, S.306, Dishonesty and Pig-Ignorance
~~~you are making a clown argument, bro~~~
One day, when I am acclaimed Galactic Commander, I will mandate a civics test before allowing people to vote and test of reading comprehension skills before allowing them to access the internet.
What is circulating now is a story that Ted Cruz supports the federal regulation of homeschooling. There are two underlying causes of this story: rank dishonesty and pig-ignorance.
Let's set the baseline. Ted Cruz supports homeschooling. (So does Marco Rubio, btw.) His support has been full, clear, un-nuanced, and unequivocal.
Not all states, however, are supportive of homeschooling. And there are areas within certain states where the decision to homeschool your child will be accompanied by anonymous allegations of child abuse/neglect and a visit from Child Protective Services.
The crux of the issue: the Coverdell Education Savings Account. The Coverdell ESA works much like one of the standard 529 plans with this major exception: it allows you to set aside money that can be withdrawn tax free for high school and elementary school expenses. This is where homeschooling takes place and you can incur non-trivial expenses if you are homeschooling. Fourteen states have provided guidance that affirmatively define homeschooling as being the equivalent of elementary through high school education. Thirty-six states, however, are silent on the issue.
Why is this important. If you have a tax audit in one of those 36 states and you are a homeschool family that has set up a Coverdell ESA you will find yourself having to prove that your plan is allowed and that you aren't liable for taxes and penalties. You may prevail. You may not. But it will be a stressful, expensive, and non-productive exercise. Moreover, a discrepancy like this allows the IRS to engage in rule-making and, given what we've seen of how they treat anything that looks vaguely conservative, they could very well put the plans off limits to homeschooling parents.
Enter Mike Lee, Ted Cruz and S.306 and proof that no good deed goes unpunished. The bill itself is very, very simple:
Amends the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to allow a state educational agency to allocate grant funds among local educational agencies based on the number of eligible children (children age 5 to 17 from a family with an income below the poverty level) enrolled in the public schools and the state-accredited private schools within each local agency's geographic jurisdiction.
Amends the Internal Revenue Code to: (1) allow payment of home school expenses from Coverdell education savings accounts; (2) remove the dollar limitation on contributions to Coverdell education savings accounts and require such accounts to provide adequate safeguards to prevent contributions from exceeding the amount necessary to provide for the qualified education expenses of the account beneficiary; and (3) allow tax-exempt qualified tuition programs (529 tuition programs) to pay qualified pre-kindergarten, elementary, and secondary education expenses.
From this an assorted collection of poltroons and imbeciles have constructed the argument that this bill creates a "federal definition of homeschooling" and will subject homeschooling to federal regulation. That anyone would believe a bill written by Ted Cruz and Mike Lee would actually do that tells you all you need to know about the sheer number of idiots there are on the internet. Take this #ouchebaggery, for instance:
What's so sinister about a tax-free education account? Simple: it's a federal program that comes with federal government strings attached. Granted, the strings may not seem that onerous right now, but the shadows of tyranny are already looming. Currently, in order to use the funds tax-free, you must send your child to a school that is accredited and also able to receive federal student aid. If you use the funds outside of such parameters, you not only have to pay the taxes but penalties on top of them.
More importantly, what could these accreditation and federal-aid regulations portend for homeschoolers? Maybe very little at first, and maybe nothing, some supporters would even say. But remember that such regulations can be tweaked and redefined by activist administrations, no matter what Congress allegedly did or did not intend. Take the money, and you just signed a contract that could allow the federal government to impose mandates on curriculum and more. Common Core would be just the beginning. Under an executive-order-happy president like Obama (and they all are), you could easily have common core, evolution, and the gay agenda shoved down your throats, or else face steep fines.
Ummm...NO. It doesn't do any of that stuff. The bill does not create either "accreditation" or "federal-aid regulations." It simply amends the definition of a qualified Coverdell ESA expense in IRS regulations to specifically include homeschool expenses. The federal government cannot impose a curriculum. Common Core is imposed by the states upon themselves. More to the fact, the Coverdell ESA rules don't require you to report the name of the school and the school district has no idea which kids are using the program.
Via Brian Skima at Erick Erickson's The Resurgent:
Opponents of Cruz and S.306 argue that giving home schoolers access to education savings accounts creates federal regulations for home education and, they insist, results in federal aid to home education that invariable comes with strings.
That is just not true.
Coverdell accounts operate just like an IRA or a health savings account. Just like a savings account or checking account, the money in a Coverdell, IRA or HSA comes from deposits made by the account holder. The advantage of a Coverdell over a regular bank account is that, just like an IRA or HSA, after the money is deposited it can grow with interest and not encounter a tax penalty as long as the money is withdrawn to pay education expenses. In the case of IRAs and HSAs the money is withdrawn to pay for retirement or health care expenses.
As a provision of the tax code, Coverdells have a similar function as tax credits or tax deductions. Families frequently take advantage of the child tax credit, standard deductions or itemized deductions to reduce their tax liability. Coverdell accounts function as a means of controlling tax liability.
"In some ways [a Coverdell account] is actually even better than a tax credit or tax deduction, because those require you to show documentation to the IRS. The Coverdell has your own money in it; it isn't something the IRS needs documentation for,†[ director of federal relations for Home School Legal Defense Association, Will] Estrada explained. "It is even more safe, if you will, from government regulation, than a tax credit."
This non-troversy is being driven by a variety of Trump friendly websites, but even RedState is not immune to this cretinish #ouchebaggery ( here | here). Note that this bill is being defended by the Home School Legal Defense Association. That, alone, should tell you that the Trump-ish critique is dishonesty on stilts.
This is not an argument about the Constitution. It is not about the role of the federal government in education. It is a very simple concept. The Coverdell ESA is a federal program that could benefit homeschooling families. The current definition of whom is eligible to participate omits homeschooling families making use of that program potentially risky. The Cruz-Lee bill, S.306, simply includes homeschooling expenses as an eligible expense, it does not create a federal definition of homeschooling.
Anyone who believes such bilge deserves tyranny.
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The left is scared of Cruz and so stories like these will continue.
I almost wish you hadn’t posted this here. You’re giving our #ouchebags/trolls ideas. I expect to see this argument made on FR, soon.
If Ted Cruz supported FEDERAL regulation of home schools, I am certain that I would have heard about the fact.
Since I haven’t (and I would have heard, believe me) been informed about the notion, I am certain Ted Cruz is not in that camp.
alot will, as soon as they see the title.
Cruz is the anti Christ, dontch know /s
I don’t even understand the anti-Cruz argument here. If homeschoolers are worried about Federal interference, all they have to do is not set up a Coverdell. I’m not a big fan of the HSLDA (their definition of homeschooling is too narrow for me), but if they think this bill is good, I think it unlikely it steps on homeschooling rights.
I saw the same thing when I briefly lived in California. The homeschoolers there were generally against school vouchers. They aligned with the far left on this issue. It was strange. They were convinced that school vouchers would result in government regulation of private and Christian education.
Homeschoolers that are this naive probably do not deserve the freedom to home school their children. But, thank God, we often do not get what we deserve.
The HSLDA is authoritative on issues like this, and they give the Lee Bill its blessing.
The Trump people are scared of Cruz and so stories like these will continue.
that goes without saying, but you are correct.
Well, before too long Trump WILL place his "trump" card. Yes, I'm a bridge player. THINK of what his PR people could do with his name:
Trump's no lump. He's the Ace of Trump.
At gas stations: This pump is for Trump
At gym: PUMP for TRUMP!
A new dance: the Trump Bump.
Don't "cross" Cruz; he'll NAIL ya to it.
Grumpy Cruz: Cross Cruz.
I'd cross the street for Cruz.
His son is Chris Cross.
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And so on.
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Heeheehee. That was fun.
“...From this an assorted collection of poltroons and imbeciles have constructed the argument that this bill creates a “federal definition of homeschooling” and will subject homeschooling to federal regulation. That anyone would believe a bill written by Ted Cruz and Mike Lee would actually do that tells you all you need to know about the sheer number of idiots there are on the internet. Take this #ouchebaggery, for instance:
http://americanvision.org/12995/cruz-bill-will-bring-homeschoolers-under-federal-regulation/
This article misses the mark completely! The fact that the program is a federal program, by ones act of participating in that program, one has brought themselves under the authority of the program, that authority being the federal government.
So, NO! This is NOT a good program for those who homeschool their children. We had set up one for our granddaughter who is homeschooled and later closed it after discovering the well hidden dirty little secret to the 529 plans, it is a contract with the federal government that allows the feds to determine how those dollars can be spent.
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