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To: Jane Long; GOPJ; Grampa Dave; stephenjohnbanker; Arthur Wildfire! March; RoosterRedux; RitaOK; ...
Apple/s CEO Tim Cook better man up and understand he is a citizen of the USA....FIRST AND FOREMOST.

Apple, and he, succeed and make humongous profits on the freedoms that we are afforded here.

The San Bernardino killers and their ilk are enemies of the US....they are bent on destroying our freedoms and everything we stand for.

It is an atrocity that Apple would allow these killers to continue their destruction of America.

5 posted on 02/17/2016 4:37:12 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: Liz

Agree!!! Spot in, Liz!


12 posted on 02/17/2016 4:50:01 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Liz

So ... what?

Do you want Apple (et al.) to provide NSA with a back-door into their products?

If you want the NSA snooping around in your phone, feel free to give them your password.

The rest of us would prefer to keep our privacy.


15 posted on 02/17/2016 4:52:43 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Liz

“The San Bernardino killers and their ilk are enemies of the US....they are bent on destroying our freedoms and everything we stand for.”

You cannot give the US government the ability to spy on Americans. They cannot be trusted with it. The price we pay is to also deny them the ability to spy on terrorists.

These folks were already on the radar of the US government, yet they did nothing.

THAT is how you stop terrorists - by acting BEFORE they kill people, not by hacking their phones AFTER they kill people.

Our intelligence, and our law enforcement has become lazy. They rely on being able to track, hack and spy on people from the comfort of their chair. They do not wish to do actual work that requires getting out of a chair.

That is the biggest danger to the US, not unbreakable encryption.

Further, the ability to hack encryption means that the US bureaucracy will use that ability to influence decision makers though blackmail and other illegal means. I worry more about that than any terrorist.

So the lack of encryption is a bigger threat to the republic than terrorism, in my opinion.


16 posted on 02/17/2016 4:55:38 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Liz

If we ban Muslim immigration, we don’t have to worry about their iPhones.


27 posted on 02/17/2016 5:17:34 AM PST by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: Liz
" It is an atrocity that Apple would allow these killers to continue their destruction of America. "

NO !! WRONG !!

The atrocity is letting these subhumans into the US in the first place. Keep them out of our country and we don't need to give the government that caused the problem to begin with even more power to undermine we the people. "

50 posted on 02/17/2016 6:21:34 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: Liz

“It is an atrocity that Apple would allow these killers to continue their destruction of America. “

I’m not buying it.

Apple knows the Fraud took over GM with no real opposition.

Hussein SPONSORS and protects muslim terrorists.

A phone call from ValJar could have easily convinced Apple to take this “patriotic” stance and further the Fraud’s mission against America.


54 posted on 02/17/2016 6:40:37 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Liz

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


62 posted on 02/17/2016 6:54:38 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Liz; Jane Long; GOPJ; Grampa Dave; stephenjohnbanker; Arthur Wildfire! March; RoosterRedux; ...

“Apple/s CEO Tim Cook better man up and understand he is a citizen of the USA....FIRST AND FOREMOST.

Apple, and he, succeed and make humongous profits on the freedoms that we are afforded here. “

BINGO


65 posted on 02/17/2016 7:20:39 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Liz

For those who have not been following internet security for the last 20 years, this is all about making sure that NO American can hide from the US Gov.

This is NOT about 911 as it really ramped up back in the ‘90s when Intel came up with an encryption solution which had no backdoor.

The MSM, NSA and State Dept went all-in attacking Intel’s plan that it was going to use it for their own personal gain.
This was a lie.

Right now, Apple iphone encryption is done in such a way that only the user has the keys.

Personal records already exist on the cell phone provider system who they called and when.

This is all about a shakedown of Apple to wire in an NSA backdoor...just like they did to Intel, Microsoft and Google.


68 posted on 02/17/2016 7:32:14 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Liz

My next cell phone will be an apple. Thanks, Tim for remembering that we have a 4th Amendment.


72 posted on 02/17/2016 7:39:02 AM PST by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: Liz

Stank weiner has spoken!!! (Cook)


82 posted on 02/17/2016 8:12:40 AM PST by chasio649 (The GOPe can never seem to remember who brought them to the dance)
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To: Liz

Right on!


85 posted on 02/17/2016 8:24:52 AM PST by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Liz
It is an atrocity that Apple would allow these killers to continue their destruction of America.

Being a very "progressive" organization, I would suspect that Apple already does help the government when it comes to the REAL terrorists (meaning Tea Party types, Republicans, etc.).

The FBI didn't even care about the terrorists' apartment, as evidenced by the press rummaging though it with evidence laying all over the place. I doubt the government wants to see what's in the phone.

I suspect that in return for Apple's continued cooperation with the Feds, they're playing out this little drama in such a public way to allow Apple to get the free publicity.

91 posted on 02/17/2016 8:37:31 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Liz
The San Bernardino killers and their ilk are enemies of the US....they are bent on destroying our freedoms and everything we stand for.

It is an atrocity that Apple would allow these killers to continue their destruction of America.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-- Ben Franklin

93 posted on 02/17/2016 8:39:53 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: Liz

Here is what troubles me— that the San Bernardino ISIS lovers are both guilty as charged and quite dead, with the keys in reach, for tracking ISIS influence and saving American innocents.

Why would they not want to help in this already proven case? Their own family could be next. Is that what it takes to move them?

Also, could the “backdoor key” be controlled by Apple, and not passed around all over the government, where Apple can act in cooperation with the government, but also delay until the indisputable evidence is before them?

I get that they do not want a privileged goose chase authority laid in the hands of the government.


97 posted on 02/17/2016 8:49:49 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Liz
The San Bernardino killers and their ilk are enemies of the US....they are bent on destroying our freedoms and everything we stand for.

They may be bent on the destruction of our freedoms but, sadly, it is a cowardly American public who are succeeding on their behalf. Your post is exhibit A.

117 posted on 02/17/2016 12:32:05 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Liz

In matters of security vs freedom, I side with Freedom. There are other ways to catch the bad guys without giving the government and hackers access to my iPhone.


119 posted on 02/17/2016 12:42:48 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Liz
Fact is, if Apple could, they'd fire every American and replace each one of them with an H1B Indian worker.

As of 2014, Apple had over one thousand H1B visa holders working for them at an average salary of $130,000+ each.

Only H1B visa caps prevent companies from hiring 100% Indians. (Cruz wants to increase the cap on H1B visas by 500,000 with no cap on China and India. TPA, fast tracking trade agreements, will remove all limits on workers immigrating into and working in signatory countries.)

Apple cannot be trusted. When a company hires an H1B, the company swears that they have 1) looked everywhere in America, and 2) cannot find anyone else qualified for the job. Seriously? (And this applies to all of the corporations who import H1B workers to take the "good" jobs from Americans and lie that no one in America is qualified.

143 posted on 02/17/2016 2:02:52 PM PST by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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To: Liz

I would say most Freepers, when it comes down to it, are Libertarian.


192 posted on 02/17/2016 5:01:09 PM PST by central_va
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To: Liz

Spoken like a true anti-freedom, anti-constitution lover of over-extended government.

Some of us here still believe in a degree of privacy and security of our data.


252 posted on 02/17/2016 10:20:10 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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