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Surprise: Trump Falls Behind Cruz in National NBC/WSJ Poll
WSJ/NBC ^ | 2-17-16 | Mark Murray

Posted on 02/17/2016 2:27:13 PM PST by ifinnegan

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump has fallen behind Ted Cruz in the national GOP horserace, according to a brand-new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

In the poll, Cruz is the first choice of 28 percent of Republican primary voters, while Trump gets 26 percent. They're followed by Marco Rubio at 17 percent, John Kasich at 11 percent, Ben Carson at 10 percent and Jeb Bush at 4 percent.


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To: gbscott1954
And this is the best chance of an open convention since 1976.

That scares me the most, because while I'd be happy with a Trump OR Cruz nominee, an open convention means NEITHER--say hello to Candidate Marco JEB Kaisch and later President Hillary Sanders...

161 posted on 02/17/2016 3:33:53 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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Surprise! Mark Murray’s wife worked in the Obama administration.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/markmurray/index

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/14516390/ns/politics-first_read/t/first-read-mark-murray/


162 posted on 02/17/2016 3:34:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: tirednvirginia

That’s true. Guess we shouldn’t question Trumps beliefs, just swallow all he says regardless of what he has said before! Guess you guys love Planned Parenthood now, since the Chief said he liked it!


163 posted on 02/17/2016 3:34:27 PM PST by gbscott1954 (Why not a real Conservative?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“As time passes, does conservatism or populism last?”

I pray for good leaders. Read my tagline. :)


164 posted on 02/17/2016 3:34:44 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I agree with you!


165 posted on 02/17/2016 3:35:15 PM PST by gbscott1954 (Why not a real Conservative?)
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To: kik5150

[ I heard he’s a nasty liar that nobody likes. ]

I hear he eats kittens and lies everyday 6-8 hours a day after the sun goes down.


166 posted on 02/17/2016 3:35:44 PM PST by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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To: ifinnegan

The WSJ is big time for illegal aliens and the GOPe in their slanted stories and opinions. To them Trump is the enemy that needs to be trashed.

The WSJ likes cheap labor whose health and other benefits are paid for by the middle class taxpayer. The WSJ plan to have the middle class provide subsidised cheap labor for the corporate establishment is something Trump would have a great time in thwarting.


167 posted on 02/17/2016 3:35:52 PM PST by DuhYup
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To: gbscott1954

[ That’s true. Guess we shouldn’t question Trumps beliefs, just swallow all he says regardless of what he has said before! Guess you guys love Planned Parenthood now, since the Chief said he liked it! ]

too many damned idiots ate up the Raw Meat he threw to them early on and now suffer from “Full Belly, Empty Mind syndrome”.

I liked the raw meat he threw out, I loved it mainly because it was delicious but mostly because it caused the MSM to go into fits.

But lately he has said some very “trepidation inducing” things.


168 posted on 02/17/2016 3:38:19 PM PST by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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To: kik5150

NO ONE likes Ted Cruz. I heard it broadcast from Trump Towers.


169 posted on 02/17/2016 3:40:02 PM PST by alstewartfan ("The old men and children they send out to face us They can't slow us down." Al Stewart)
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To: ifinnegan

The beauty of all this is, Ted Cruz was behind by a massive 13 points in the last WSJ/NBC poll. That’s a swing of a pretty impressive 15%, and its the first time anyone has been ahead of Trump in a major national poll for months.
Also it’s the first time anyone has actually gone ahead of Trump in a national poll after going toe to toe with him in a nasty bare knuckles fight. GO CRUZ!


170 posted on 02/17/2016 3:40:54 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: gbscott1954
Personally I think it's a hit piece because I can't imagine Elmer Ted Gantry winning anything. He's not even likable, that has to play into it at some point.

Of course then there's amnesty, TPA where he wrote an article asking to give Obama more power, etc.

Ted Cruz joins the establishment

171 posted on 02/17/2016 3:43:56 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: DuhYup

Chuckle!
Didn’t hear any screams from you when the same WSJ had Trump ahead by 13 points in their last poll. Trumpets kept posting that poll on FR over and over again.


172 posted on 02/17/2016 3:44:20 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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Polling Data Nationwide February, 2016

Poll Date Sample
Trump
Cruz
Rubio
Kasich
Carson
Bush
Spread
NBC News/Wall St. JrnlNBC/WSJ 2/14 - 2/16 400 LV 26 28 17 11 10 4 Cruz +2
QuinnipiacQuinnipiac 2/10 - 2/15 602 LV 39 18 19 6 4 4 Trump +20
USA Today/SuffolkUSA Today 2/11 - 2/15 358 LV 35 20 17 7 4 6 Trump +15
QuinnipiacQuinnipiac 2/2 - 2/4 507 RV 31 22 19 3 6 3 Trump +9
Rasmussen ReportsRasmussen 2/3 - 2/4 725 LV 31 20 21 6 5 4 Trump +10
PPP (D)PPP (D) 2/2 - 2/3 531 LV 25 21 21 5 11 5 Trump +4

173 posted on 02/17/2016 3:44:40 PM PST by deport
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To: TexasCajun

are any of the super tuesday states open primary? i suspect this is our BIGGEST problem as a party and has been for years; allows dems to pick our candidates every time.


174 posted on 02/17/2016 3:44:59 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Let’s see the results of the SC primary this Saturday and see how many adults support him.


175 posted on 02/17/2016 3:47:28 PM PST by kabar
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To: ifinnegan

Hmmm. The thing that was supposed to bring Trump down was his comments about George Bush.

If that is why his support declined, why is Jeb! still at 4%.

NBC/Marist drastically changed their methodology by halving their sample compared to their last poll in January NBC/WSJ/Marist 1/17 - 1/23 718 LV

January 2016: Likely Republican Primary Voters: n=718,

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/HUB_NBCPolitics_Front/NBC%20News_WSJ_Marist%20Poll_South%20Carolina%20Annotated%20Questionnaire_January%202016.pdf


176 posted on 02/17/2016 3:49:23 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican ("Donald Trump is the last hope for America." Phyllis Schlafly)
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To: ifinnegan

I hope these two bury the hatchet.

Primaries are tough.


177 posted on 02/17/2016 3:52:16 PM PST by SoFloFreeper (I am undecided between Carson, Cruz, Rubio & Trump...)
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To: ifinnegan

check out these internals:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/299591277/NBC-WSJ-February-Poll-GOP?secret_password=JnP82QeNxD9kHWxwZuHr

skimpy on the details, m/f ratio off and there’s a Moe of 9%. Cooked. Believe it.


178 posted on 02/17/2016 3:53:51 PM PST by Baladas
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To: WVKayaker

That’s too funny - thanks.


179 posted on 02/17/2016 3:54:52 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: ifinnegan

I would like to congratulate the Cruz supporters for this certain victory in South Carolina in three days.

D1


180 posted on 02/17/2016 3:55:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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