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To: TigerClaws

Best analysis of the Natural Born Citizen issue: http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/09/natural-born-citizens-marco-rubio-bobby-jindal-ted-cruz/


3 posted on 02/18/2016 10:05:41 PM PST by TheConservator ("I spent my life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless, but not men.")
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Yeah... he makes a good case that words don’t mean anything.


6 posted on 02/18/2016 10:15:49 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: TheConservator

From the article:

“....and naturalization at birth of certain classes of children born abroad to citizens.”

You are NATURAL BORN CITIZEN or you are a NATURALIZED CITIZEN (rules change over time via Congress).

Cruz is the latter.


9 posted on 02/18/2016 10:25:01 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TheConservator

William A. Jacobson made a number of errors in his analysis and statements in his article, so his conclusions are often wrong. For one example, he failed to note how Ted Cruz was not eligible to acquire any form of U.S. citizenship at birth and is likely not even a lawful U.S. citizen today. If so, he is not even eligible to be a U.S. Senator, and he could, in theory, be denaturalized and deported back to Canada. See the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 that was the law applicable to Ted Cruz when he was born:

66 Stat. Public Law 414 -— June 27, 1952
CHILD BORN OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES OF ONE ALIEN AND ONE CITIZEN PARENT AT TIME OF BIRTH; CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH CITIZENSHIP AUTOMATICALLY ACQUIRED

Sec. 320. (a) A child born outside of the United States, one of whose parents at the time of the child’s birth was an alien and the other of whose parents then was and never thereafter ceased to be a citizen of the United States, shall, if such alien parent is naturalized, become a citizen of the United States, when -
(1) such naturalization takes place while such child is under the age of sixteen years; and
(2) such child is residing in the United States pursuant to a lawful admission for permanent residence at the time of naturalization or thereafter and begins to reside permanently in the United States while under the age of sixteen years.

Ted Cruz was born outside of the United States in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. His father at the time of birth of Ted Cruz on 22 December 1970 was an alien in relation to the United States, having Cuban citizenship and Canadian Permanent Resident status on the path to Canadian citizenship afterwards. Ted Cruz attained the age of sixteen years on 22 December 1986, at which time his alien father was a Canadian citizen and was not naturalized as a U.S. citizen. Accordingly, Ted Cruz did not meet the conditions necessary to “become a citizen of the United States” as required by Public Law 414 Section 320 CHILD BORN OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES OF ONE ALIEN AND ONE CITIZEN PARENT AT TIME OF BIRTH; CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH CITIZENSHIP AUTOMATICALLY ACQUIRED


13 posted on 02/18/2016 10:55:15 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: TheConservator
If your citizenship relies upon a law passed by Congress then you're not a natural born citizen.

It's so simple even a caveman can understand it.

87 posted on 02/19/2016 6:20:51 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: TheConservator
Best analysis of the Natural Born Citizen issue

Yes. That was excellent. Thank you.

104 posted on 02/19/2016 7:30:25 AM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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