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The IRS seized this North Carolina man’s life savings. Now he’s getting it back
FOX8 ^ | February 20, 2016 | CNN Wire

Posted on 02/20/2016 11:45:44 AM PST by kevcol

In June 2014, the IRS seized $153,907.99 from Ken Quran's bank account - his life savings - even though he did nothing wrong.
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the IRS may seize a person's bank assets if it discovers a pattern of frequent transactions under $10,000. Banks are required to report cash transactions over $10,000 and it's a crime if one tries to avoid that reporting by purposefully keeping all transactions below that amount.

The laws are intended to suss out drug trafficking, money laundering and organized crime or terrorist activity. But the IRS doesn't need any evidence of wrongdoing before seizing the money.
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A similar incident happened to another North Carolina convenience store owner, Lyndon McLellan, last year. In that case, the IRS eventually returned the money.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: assetforfeiture; bhoirs; civilforfeiture; forfeiture; irs; irsoutofcontrol; obama; tyranny; wod
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To: napscoordinator

The IRS interest rate is about 3% now.


41 posted on 02/20/2016 1:02:08 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: catfish1957

The statute of limitations is normally three years from the due date of the return or the date of filing, which ever is later. If no return was filed the statute of limitations does not expire.


42 posted on 02/20/2016 1:05:43 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: gubamyster

Thank you. I guess that is something....


43 posted on 02/20/2016 1:05:44 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Raycpa
Here is what was happening: The estate tax is computed on the value of the estate PLUS gifts made during one's lifetime. So the tax is a current one. Gifts made during different time periods in the past are treated slightly differently, so identifying the 1960's is enough to identify which category of time period the gift was made.

She had operated a school for lithography during the 1960's, and the estate had several lithos which various artists had given her during that time. Most of them were just proofs and not numbered pieces, but they still totaled up to something (there were/are about 300 of them).

We were more worried that we sold her house too quickly (about 20 months after her death) and our accountant freaked when it sold for $800K over the original estimated value. Fortunately the IRS didn't bat an eye at that item... a big relief for us. I think they felt they had to get us for something, just because.

44 posted on 02/20/2016 1:17:49 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: napscoordinator

Actually, I am not alone, it is that I am merely one of the remnant patriots who actually know what the 16th Amendment is so to apply it to my earnings as the law requires me to do and most years, I don’t even file because the law does not require me to do so.

Time spent this year filing ‘income’ excise tax returns for our business? “ZERO”! As it has been for over 10 years when our business ceased to be engaged in the use of federal property that would then result in our earning ‘16th Amendment ‘income’.

Was Grandpa Really a Moron? Critical Inquiries for a New American Century ... http://www.losthorizons.com/comment/archives/BobsBicycles.pdf


45 posted on 02/20/2016 1:25:28 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Raycpa

No, I am referring to sections 3401, 3402, 3121 & 7701 of Title 26 of the US Code.


46 posted on 02/20/2016 1:26:58 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Raycpa

The gift exclusions differed over the years. I have no clue about the 60s. I assume either a gift tax return was filed in the 60s or something that was owned at death indicated it a gift had been made, perhaps a partial deed transfer or trust.


47 posted on 02/20/2016 1:52:19 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: patlin

Do you do your own surgery?


48 posted on 02/20/2016 1:56:28 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

Only when necessary


49 posted on 02/20/2016 2:00:34 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: fr_freak

You’re right, I got those reversed.


50 posted on 02/20/2016 2:00:59 PM PST by Ken H
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To: P-Marlowe
No, I’m trying to say that the 16th amendment was a liberty robbing power grab and is not consistent with the amendments that preceded it. The American people were sold a bill of goods and now half of our income is swallowed up by the leviathan and it we don’t pay up, we lose everything.

You're absolutely right, but the 16th is only an application of the person status created by the 14th. That's the "big secret."

51 posted on 02/20/2016 2:55:03 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Raycpa
They make plenty of mistakes and they often choose not to apply the law and regulations fairly even though they know they will lose in court.

True, but the law is written so as to allow them to make those presumptive applications. That's why for real reform, we don't have to change the tax laws, but how they're applied. Unfortunately, that's a distinction too far for most people to grasp, and so the process remains firmly in place for the foreseeable future, IMHO.

52 posted on 02/20/2016 2:57:48 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: kevcol
The laws are intended to suss out drug trafficking, money laundering and organized crime or terrorist activity.

No, that was a con to sucker the low-information voters (left and right); the plan was always to just take our money.

53 posted on 02/20/2016 3:51:52 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: chaosagent

I know a guy that owns a C-store that is 35 miles from the nearest bank. He used to make his deposit weekly and was often over the $10,000. The IRS and the Secret Service showed up one day and wanted to see his books. They found nothing wrong but it infuriated him. Now he goes out on Friday with two armed guards and pays his bills in cash. Annoys the beer distributors but tough cookie.


54 posted on 02/20/2016 4:04:37 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Regulator

Don’t forget the ‘voluntary’ waiving of your 5th as you file...


55 posted on 02/20/2016 5:11:36 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: P-Marlowe

There was a bad run of Amendments, imho. The 16th is not the only Amendment which was not a good idea. The 17th isn’t high on my list of ‘keepers’, either, and the 18th was repealed. I’m still debating about how I feel about the 19th (YMMV).


56 posted on 02/20/2016 5:19:47 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)

Thanks for that, Joe - watching The Donald win SC, I needed to be reminded.

57 posted on 02/20/2016 5:28:41 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Some days, we all do, me included!


58 posted on 02/20/2016 5:34:03 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: tired&retired

Did they not just extent that to 7 years?


59 posted on 02/20/2016 6:35:10 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: SgtHooper

7 yrs if there is fraud, which is pretty hard to prove.


60 posted on 02/21/2016 10:44:10 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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