Posted on 02/21/2016 4:55:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The SC wouldn’t be evenly split. It would probably be 8-0 saying Rubio (or Cruz) is eligible.
This is FUN. Trump is just keeping Rubio and Cruz off balance a bit...and it works.
it depends. Everyone here is a fricken lawyer.
Problem is, it is now at the the point that if you vote for Cruz, you will get Rubio. I cannot stress enough to you just how much damage the Romney endorsement is going to help Rubio in the primaries. It pretty much guarantees him Romney’s Mormon pluralities. Now is the time to STOP repeating the mistake of the last primary season when everyone stubbornly clung to their candidate, letting the establishment candidate, Romney win almost every primary with small pluralities so that by the time the big primaries rolled around there were no other candidates left standing. This is the time to stop this foolishness and recognize Rubio for the threat that he is. We need, now, to unite behind one candidate, or we are seriously seriously going to regret it. If Cruz were #1, I would advise voting for Cruz, but since Trump is first place, we must must must, all of us (unless you prefer Rubio) unite behind Trump.
Here we go— the simpleton speaks to the simpletons, the bozo vote to “fake them out” again.
Why doesn’t the donald ask about OBAMAUMAO’s eligiblity, which by truly questioning it and proving it— would NEGATE everything the mack daddy queer muslim marxist ever signed.
But nooooo, he needs to weed the field for Hillary.
Barry Sotero is natural born. In Honolulu to Stanley Ann Dunham, and Frank Marshall Davis. The real BC says that. IMHO. Forget the Kenya stuff. Stalin loving Davis is the real scandal.
I’m for Cruz but if I were on the jury on the Trump University case I’d make those plaintiffs pay Trump double their money again for being too stupid to learn their lesson the first time on how not give away your money stupidly.
No judge has the spine to declare anyone ineligible—especially at this point in time, because of the implications it would have on Obama.
I really hope once things settle down after the next election congress will at least pass a resolution defining what natural born actually means.
Citizen at birth just doesn’t get it, because the founder’s goal was to prevent someone with divided loyalties from becoming president.
The bastard child of an American visiting Thailand and a prostitute is technically a citizen because of his father. And, given DNA testing he can prove he’s that American’s child (and thus his citizenship). But, does that child fit any definition of natural born citizen? By the standards floating around today, he probably does.
Cruz also inherited his father’s nature, Cuban, which gives him a “divided” nature; his nature is not pure American; his nature is again divided by his Canadian birth, and this nature makes him a British subject of the Queen; hardly compatible with a natural American citizen.
“I intend to vote for Cruz in the March 1 primary but if I eventually have to choose between Trump and Rubio, I will be a Trump man.”
I was just arguing with a Rubio supporting about this over on Red State. He/she was saying that the lions share of Cruz voters will go to Rubio when/if Cruz drops out. It is very clear to me from talking with several Rubio supporters that they have absolutely NO clue how important immigration is and how deep the sense of betrayal there is toward Rubio over Gang of 8. They contend that Gang of 8 is not that important to voters, but I contend that if Rubio had not gone down that road, he’d probably be running away with the nomination at this point. Also, I think if the GOP had built the wall they authorized back in 2007 and the border was now satisfactorily secure, Trump would be a non-factor in this race.
As for me, I haven’t decided yet between Rubio and Trump if Cruz drops. With Rubio’s slippery language on immigration, I’m thinking the only way I could trust him is if he signed an ironclad contract stating that he’s learned his lesson and promising not to even think about amnesty again. Short of that, I think there’s a good chance he’ll burn us again.
Trump is not going to prison. There is no fraud, there is no evidence of any fraud, and no basis for criminal charges. There are only some clients who freely made poor career choice.
If Blondie was born in the United States he is eligible, his parent’s (not his own) frequent “restatement” concerning the facts of their arrival in the USA leave that open to the debate.
In the end, I have no doubt Marco believes whatever his family told him — after all, he went through adolescence thinking his dad coached the Miami Dolphins..
“Actually Rubio is an anchor baby born in Miami and neither parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time.”
His parents were legal residents which means he was a citizen at birth based on the 14th amendment.
Whether he was a natural born citizen or naturalized at birth depends on whether the founders intended “natural” to mean jus sanguinis (by blood) or jus solis (by land).
I think history indicates the founders’ general consensus was that citizenship is naturally conveyed by blood. But courts seemed to have favored the Blackstone / British common law argument, as opposed to the Vattel / natural law argument.
One of the interesting notes from the video I linked was the founders understood that the child’s nature derived from the FATHER, not the mother.
If forget the legal term she used, but it’s has to do with the idea that the wife’s identity was subsumed into her husbands. Hence the use of Mrs. John Smith.
So, by that definition Cruz would not be natural born, because his father wasn’t. But, given todays PC culture I can’t see that flying.
Well if one of them gets the nomination and is sued by Hillary... let's hope so. I am not as optimistic as you are however. You do realize that our court system is every bit as political as the other two branches of government?
Noone could accuse Trump of not being consistant. He questioned Obama, Cruz and Rubio for their birth status to run
Bottom line: scRubio is ineligible AND a tea party betraying GO8 amnesty pimp and must be sent home. Miami or Cuba, I don’t care but make it soon.
Donald Trump took credit on Wednesday for President Obama's decision to release a copy of his long-form birth certificate, and said he felt "really honored" to have "played such a big role in hopefully, hopefully getting rid of this issue."
Speaking to reporters after arriving in New Hampshire via helicopter, Trump emphasized that "we have to see, is it real?" but noted that he hopes the birth certificate "checks out."
"I am really honored frankly to have played such a big role in hopefully, hopefully, getting rid of this issue," he said. "We have to look at it, we have to see is it real, is it proper, what's on it, but I hope it checks out beautifully. I am really proud, I am really honored."
"It is rather amazing that all the sudden it materializes, but I hope it's the right deal," Trump added. "I'm really proud that I was able to bring this to a point."
Natural born citizen is an exclusionary term, meaning if one can be anything else, one cannot be a natural born citizen.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
Solely a US citizen.
Inherited citizenship from foreign national parents or foreign place of birth negates natural born citizen status.
I think you are probably right.
That’s what the whole fabrication is covering up.
A Soviet plant has been made President.
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