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The Psychology of the Breathtakingly Stupid Mistake
Scientific American ^ | February 23, 2016 | David Z. Hambrick

Posted on 02/24/2016 8:42:10 AM PST by Torcert

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To: VanShuyten
Good subject for Scientific American, which went from a respected scientific journal to a left-wing tabloid, losing many of its subscribers in the process.

Myself, for one. You beat me to that one so I'll just bump it to the top.

21 posted on 02/24/2016 9:11:47 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: KyCats

Tom whom is your implication being made?


22 posted on 02/24/2016 9:12:25 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: corkoman

Well put - quite sad really Scientific American was a great magazine before they were sold off.

Most of the articles belong in Time or Newsweek... so sad.

The editors don’t seem to know what a controlling variable is. The amount of junk science published today is staggering - and this Science-fluff magazine shows just how silly it is now.


23 posted on 02/24/2016 9:12:42 AM PST by paulk ( If one fails to learn self discipline, Don't worry; there will be others to boss you around. -kps)
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To: Theophilus

Silence in the face of evil is also evil.
Sadly the similarities are becoming all too frightening.


24 posted on 02/24/2016 9:15:36 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: VanShuyten

Yes, it was one of my favorite reads back in the day... Their diverging into scientific activism for Global Cooling was reason that is not the case as of late.


25 posted on 02/24/2016 9:17:40 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: MNJohnnie

Can you backup your assertion with real facts in the form of excerpts where I supposedly had this failing?


26 posted on 02/24/2016 9:19:32 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: VanShuyten

I know you said something very deep but I not sure I’m smart enough to understand it.


27 posted on 02/24/2016 9:20:04 AM PST by refermech
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To: VanShuyten
Dunning and Kruger wrote a great paper. You should read it. It explains a lot in academia and management.

You shouldn't presume ignorance from people who disagree with you. It's delusional.

IMO, Dunning and Kruger drew unsupported conclusions. The effects they observed were not innate to the subjects they studied, but a result of a skewed PC feedback cycle which disallows honest responses to people's actual levels of competency. And, in PC form, they refused to acknowledge the true meaning of their research in order to protect that PC system. As a result, by assuming PC feedback is accurate, they concluded that the bloated self-estimates it creates is a reflection of the subjects themselves, rather than the result of the socially demanded erroneous feedback cycle.

The study is therefore itself PC garbage. A perfect GIGO example, in fact.

28 posted on 02/24/2016 9:27:02 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: pgkdan

Given that your response was bereft of any manner intellectual arguments and more akin to the school yard if confirmation of the assertion.

Thank you for your very appropriate input to the discussion.


29 posted on 02/24/2016 9:41:35 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Such people who dwell in the truth are unfortunately relegated to such journalistic back waters.


30 posted on 02/24/2016 9:43:34 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: KyCats

Did you actually do ANY research before making such a statement?

Or was it your vain hope that the mere implication made by your comment supposed to suffice?


31 posted on 02/24/2016 9:45:28 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: Torcert
The 3 causes of stupid mistakes are:
1) overestimation of one's abilities
2) making impulsive decisions
3) lapses of attention,
but the cause of all three are the refusal or inability to activate one's higher level conceptual consciousness and to become reality oriented, or the evasion of reality back to a constant state of haze, drift, and fog. In this state one is motivated by emotions, fantasies,immediate interests, urges, and subconscious drives rather than reason.
32 posted on 02/24/2016 9:49:26 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Torcert

ping


33 posted on 02/24/2016 9:51:36 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Talisker

Actually, their study didn’t get into why the students’ self-assessments of competence were skewed. It could be from many reasons - social stigma of pride for the competents, embarrassment for the incompetents, incompetents’ inability to think logically and impersonally, or, your favorite, PC ideas about equality of ideas, to name a few.

They did say that incompetent people seemed to be much less able to accurately judge their own and others’ competence.


34 posted on 02/24/2016 9:54:56 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: VanShuyten
Good subject for Scientific American, which went from a respected scientific journal to a left-wing tabloid, losing many of its subscribers in the process.

What you wrote, brother. And how!

35 posted on 02/24/2016 10:07:18 AM PST by Prospero (Omnis caro fenum)
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To: VanShuyten
Actually, their study didn’t get into why the students’ self-assessments of competence were skewed.

Their questions were constructed to avoid the subject in a very specify manner. Like I said, I believe it's a false study. YMMV

36 posted on 02/24/2016 10:10:13 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Torcert

Stupid mistake by Mears.

I was having lunch with a friend who said she ran out of the little stickers with her return address on them that she put on her mail.She asked me if I knew where to order them.

I told her that I had loads of extras at home and that I would give her some.

She looked at me as if I had 2 heads.

.


37 posted on 02/24/2016 10:23:50 AM PST by Mears (,)
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To: mjp

And sadly these days many have un-moored themselves from reality and logic. And sadder still many do not realize they have done so and are... as you said..motivated by emotion and other drives.


38 posted on 02/24/2016 10:31:58 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: Torcert
believing that lemon juice he had rubbed on his face would make him invisible to security cameras

Well, who here hasn't, on occasion, confused the invisible ink trick with the invisible man trick?

39 posted on 02/24/2016 11:12:23 AM PST by Moltke
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To: Torcert
Scientific American supports the mythology of global warming.

Guess they know less about breathtakingly stupid mistakes than they think.

40 posted on 02/24/2016 11:12:51 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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