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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

The Dutch were probably worse than the French as colonizers; the Spanish were relatively benign (in comparison to Belgium or Holland), losing their colonies not to native independence movements but like the US with England, their own transplants or wars. The Latin American independence movements were led by Spaniards, and they lost the Philippines, Cuba, and Puerto Rico in the Spanish-American War.

I don’t believe there are independence movements in France’s remaining colonies; like Puerto Ricans, they can look around them and see the potential dangers (and responsibilities) of independence. Haiti was the second country in the Western hemisphere to gain their independence (in 1804, after us); they can’t blame France any more. I saw a photo (looked like it was from a helicopter) of the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic; the DR side was lush green, and a perfectly straight line separated it from what looked like a desert. Haitians had cut everything down for firewood, and never replanted any of the trees (and this was before the earthquake). If you think US blacks should be better off 150 years after slavery was ended (and 50 years after the freebies of the Great Society), what should we expect of Haiti’s blacks who have had independence for 210 years? No segregation, Jim Crow laws, etc.; a great growing climate, relative security (in terms of military defense)...and this is the result.


38 posted on 02/25/2016 3:57:28 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
I don’t believe there are independence movements in France’s remaining colonies;

There are.

They just get suppressed by the french.

Haiti was the second country in the Western hemisphere to gain their independence (in 1804, after us); they can't blame France any more.

Haiti never has been independent of france. Pretty much everything there is still run by french NGOs.

Why do you think Baby Doc when to france when he was forced out of power and was welcomed there? He had been running Haiti as a french proxy.

Yes, Haiti is a mess. The picture you speak of is a "tragedy of the commons". There is no incentive to plant trees on land you do not own and you will get no benefit from.

53 posted on 02/25/2016 9:32:51 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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