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'He's a fool': Trump fires back at 'tough guy' Romney
The Washington Examiner ^ | February 24, 2016 | Al Weaver

Posted on 02/24/2016 11:38:35 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump, always the deal maker, should propose this:

I will release my tax returns if and only if both of the following have happened...

a. Obama releases his school records
b. Cruz releases his CRBA


321 posted on 02/26/2016 4:31:19 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Fresh Wind

If Trump wants to abide by the law, he’ll release the required tax returns.


322 posted on 02/26/2016 4:33:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“The Journal noted that Trump’s rivals Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz have not released their most recent tax returns...”


323 posted on 02/26/2016 4:35:35 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Fresh Wind

This is true and they said they’ll be turning them over. Their past returns are already public knowledge.

Trump could release the required returns that aren’t under audit now.


324 posted on 02/26/2016 4:42:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So, what law requires this?


325 posted on 02/26/2016 5:00:14 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: jonrick46
Before telephones, people used letters to convey messages, or reliable individuals to convey messages in person.

The 4th Amendment was to keep people secure in their person, papers, and effects (property), so such things could not be searched without some probable cause that a crime was being committed. [Just think how disruptive it would be to a business to have someone digging through your stuff on an ongoing basis, not to mention the advantage which other businesses could take of insider knowledge.]

Communications methods have changed.

What I post on this forum, or someone puts on facebook or a similar forum is the equivalent of tacking up a handbill in the public square. It isn't secure, isn't supposed to be, really, and there is no expectation of privacy.

If I specifically call someone or send them a text message, however, those have taken the place of that physical letter or messenger. Those communications are not intended to be in the public domain. As such, those communications not posted in the public domain should be considered private and left that way.

That a machine which is subject to error in translating speech to text, which cannot translate the inflections of sarcasm, joking, or dead seriousness is is doing the monitoring is even more dangerous than a live eavesdropper who might be more honest or precise about the nature of that communication.

Should we have to parse our speech, even in private, so it cannot be misinterpreted by the machine and our lives threatened or forfeit due to mistranslation of communications which should have been private in the first place?

The machine's interpretation of what communication has transpired will, in turn, be translated again by suspicious people (that's their job) who are looking for a reason to continue with a physical search. It's what they do.

For the uninitiated, the physical search may involve seizing all computers and electronic devices and data storage devices, destroying furniture believed to have a hidden compartment, tearing out walls, and, at the discretion of the person doing the searching, generally trashing the premises. The searchers are under no obligation to return anything to its former position nor clean up any mess. If you provide any resistance, especially to a no-knock search, that opens another kettle of worms.

It is difficult to 'violate' the Fourth Amendment by means not in existence at the time it was written, against means of communication and information storage not in existence, but the intent of the Amendment should encompass the technologies which have replaced letters and papers, just as the concept of "intellectual property" has been extended to property which was once a mere physical device.

No such abuse should be tolerated by ANY government, and claiming it is 'because they are on our side' is no excuse for crossing that threshold. I will note that in times of war we have reason, if we are honest, to suspect people or groups of people of engaging in espionage and have traditionally monitored such groups and other specific individuals. Even then, our government did not monitor everyone.

326 posted on 02/26/2016 5:27:21 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The law? Why didn’t Mr. Cruz abide by the law
and prevent ObamaTRADE? or admit he was bought
and paid for by Goldman Sachs. Seems hypocritical.


327 posted on 02/26/2016 8:32:55 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: DB

Hahahahahahah, you sound like a stuck pig sitting on a thumbtack and not getting up but still squealing. LOL, hahahahahahaha!!

I was having a conversation with someone else.


328 posted on 02/26/2016 8:34:26 AM PST by conservativesister (And FReepers, please quit attacking each other. We're all in this together.-"JR" i)
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To: jonrick46

No doubt!


329 posted on 02/26/2016 8:36:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If Trump wants to abide by the law, he’ll release the required tax returns.

What 'LAW'?

330 posted on 02/26/2016 8:36:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What ‘required’?


331 posted on 02/26/2016 8:37:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Should we have to parse our speech, even in private, so it cannot be misinterpreted by the machine and our lives threatened or forfeit due to mistranslation of communications which should have been private in the first place?

Ecclesiastes 10:20
Do not revile the king even in your thoughts, or curse the rich in your bedroom, because a bird in the sky may carry your words, and a bird on the wing may report what you say.


Those that have ears; let him hear.



Oh... wait...

332 posted on 02/26/2016 8:45:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Oh... wait...

Yeah, wait. This is a government we're talking about, one which at the present barely acknowledges Almighty God.

If you mean THE KING (Almighty God), that is one thing, but He already knows our hearts and doesn't need to tap out phones, broadcast or landline.

I know no earthly King, and our government doesn't make provisions for a monarch. If you want one of those, I suggest you go elsewhere.

333 posted on 02/26/2016 10:26:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: conservativesister

Well you sound like someone driven by emotion and lacking logic and reason.

On a public forum you’re having a conversation with whomever is reading/replying. You are not entitled to your own “safe zone” here...


334 posted on 02/26/2016 12:53:32 PM PST by DB
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To: Smokin' Joe

You see the extent of the Big Government arm into our lives through the power of modern technology. I am also concerned. For example, if you were to get into a high government position, could this technology be used against you to blackmail you into compliance with the Government will? Does Big Government storm into your property because you appear as opposition to their agenda? What is going on in small degrees now will be a monster over the individual later. Our children will be controlled.


335 posted on 02/26/2016 3:13:37 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: DB

You are too funny, it’s amazing what you have the ability to deduce and be wrong, I didnt ask for a safe zone, I just made a choice, go ahead and guess, let’s see if you’re wrong again.


336 posted on 02/26/2016 3:42:12 PM PST by conservativesister (And FReepers, please quit attacking each other. We're all in this together.-"JR" i)
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