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Rubio, "Ted, that might work. We've tried everything else, but I'm not sure we can get away with it. What would Hillary do?"
Posted on 02/28/2016 11:39:09 AM PST by gg188
For 2011 to 2014, Cruz’s campaign released two pages of tax returns for each year. The documents, like those released earlier Saturday by fellow GOP contender Sen. Marco Rubio — don’t reveal many details like which tax breaks he claimed or how much he gave to charity.
Rubio's returns were also scant on details.
And what they're submitting is already on the disclosure form. So this is a big nothing.
They'll pee their pants when they see Trump's.
And remember, most of his businesses went to his children a long time ago.
A pen and a phone?
Hillary will beat Trump.
She already has the 40 to 45% of the vote that will go democrat no matter what..
She will have media support. The Fox News Channel all of you hate will be the only people against her.
You will be crawling back to Rush and Levin begging them to love you again.
Trump is despised by everyone except his disciples. New damning information comes out on him every day and you can believe Hillary will use it.
A lot of people who can’t stand either one of them will opt out of voting.
Hillary will be in.
That's too simple. Congress has to have something to do otherwise they wouldn't have their cushy jobs.
It’s more than Trump has released.
I don’t know if anyone noticed but Trump dropped a hint about why he doesn’t want to release his tax returns.
He said that net worth has nothing to do with income. I’m betting that due to write-offs he isn’t showing much income.
I’d rather have ability to file my own tax.
Who’s to say employers would do it properly, what recourse if not done properly and too much is taken?
It seems odd and un American (where we have say in things, liberty in ways other countries don;’t allow their citizens) for it to be a tax on the employees income, yet the employee doesn’t have major part in handling the payment of it and the possibility there are legal reasons people may owe more or less that have nothing to do with the employer - so why have the employer handle it?
I don't know if that's true. Let's see what happens when he releases partial returns. Or any returns.
Personally, I don't care if anyone releases their tax returns. It is none of my business. But if you (and others) are going to take Cruz and Rubio to task for only releasing partial returns, take Trump to task for hiding behind the IRS. There is nothing in those returns being audited that the IRS doesn't already know.
No you lie . your a paid campaign troll cause no one can be this dumb
that liar Cruz conned all of you and is making fools of you.
Cruz sold out America with TPA and TPP and all of you know it. ditto with the Corker bill.
America and Americans are in deep deep trouble because of Cruz Rubio and Obama:
All 3 have pushed this TPA TPP or obamattrade on us. It takes away U.S. sovereignty and allows 3rd world countries to send into the USA 100’s of millions of 3rd world immigrant workers into the USA. Only Trump is against TPP and will stop it. Trump is our only hope now.
In the course of this series, I’ve examined Ted Cruz’s branding as the “consistent conservative,” also the constitutional conservative, and found it wanting on several levels. For one thing, Cruz has flip-flopped in the space of the primary cycle on vital immigration and trade issues.
For example:
Cruz has moved from the globalist position to the nationalist position on Syrian refugess (for to against), Obamatrade (for to against), H1B visas (from calling for expansion to calling for a moratorium), birthright citizenship (from waste of conservative time to must end it). Now he even calls for a “wall that works.” In this way, Cruz has moved to occupy brand new political terrain that Donald Trump by himself opened up (which is why Trump has my vote).
Obamatrade gets only a mention above, but in Stephen Miller’s superb explication, it becomes clear how core-central the trade issue is; what it tells us about Ted Cruz that his pre-Trump instincts were to support it; and how crucial Trump’s decades of opposition to such “free” trade is to his candidacy.
Here is my unofficial transcript of Miller’s relevant remarks:
... But I would note on immigration, if we’re going to get into that with Ted Cruz, he voted for fast track powers for Obama. If you’re concerned about the Constitution, if you’re concerned about the arrival of foreign workers, the idea that you would enmesh the US permanently in a transnational union that hands over sovereign United States power to foreign countries, dictating labor-enviromental-regulation-trade-commercial-immigration policy, then clearly, immigration and the Constitution are not as important to you as you suggest.
The logic is clear if shocking. What “consistent orginalist” would ever even consider supporting such a Constitution-gutting move? Meanwhile, though, it fits a pattern (see, for example, “Cruz, Rubio, Paul: All Abandoned `Advise and Consent’” by Andrew Bostom).
Miller:
That was a defining vote. To say that a candidate is good except for giving Obama fast track powers (obviously there’s a lot more problem with Cruz’s resume that that) but if you’re argument is, well, I like Cruz except that he gave Obama unlimited fast track powers — that’s like saying, I bought a great new car. The engine will explode in 60 seconds after I turn it on; but other than that it’s great.
That was a defining moment history in the history of the United States. ...
Q: Why?
Because [it] answered the question of whether or not the United States will remain a sovereign country. Already in ways that we don’t readily see but we experience the effects, the sovereign powers of the United States have been bled away, whether it’s with agreements in the UN, whether it’s with agreements in existing international structures, like the World Trade Organization, or NAFTA, or something called the Generalized Agreement in Trade and Services ...
A lot of people don’t realize there’s already laws that we cannot change without being forced into some kind of international court or arbitration.
For instance, a previous agreement we made on what’s called Trade and Services [which] basically has to do not with moving merchandise, but moving people, and services. So, for instance it includes foreign workers.
And so, we made an agreement on Trade and Services with a series of foreign countries that actually prevents us from limiting the movement of foreign workers with participating countries. That’s already the case. That’s already happened. Same thing with NAFTA. We have 70,000 foreign workers coming through NAFTA every year, so-called treaty-workers. We can’t stop them from coming.
Understand this. Think about this: We, a sovereign country, cannot restrict the arrival of these treaty-workers because of an international agreement that we made. Now, imagine applying that to 70 percent of world GDP with the Trans Pacific Partnership.
But then step wider, because fast track, it gave the the executive the ability to negotiate as many trade agreements as they want with limited scrutiny, and very limited abilty to block, for six years.
They had three agreements that they were working on: the Trans Pacific Partnership, the Trans Atlantic Partnership, and then the Trade and Services Agreement, which is called TISA. Collectively, those three agreement encompass 90 percent of world GDP.
If you look at Ted Cruz’s op-ed with Paul Ryan [interupted]...
NB: Cruz and Ryan co-authored an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal on April 21, 2015, “Putting Congress in Charge on Trade,” which endorsed the Obamatrade project.
Back to Miller:
So if you look at that op-ed ...
We’re talking about a defining moment in US history.
I will point to what is happening in England, in the United Kingdom, and what they’ve seen with the European Union, and their own inability to block the movements of foreign persons, as well as the regulation that’s imposed upon them from Brussels.
And that began as a trade agreement.
Once you begin walking down this path, you hit a point of no return.
So that op-ed was a moment in Cruz’s career where he threw in his lot in total with the globalists....
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Rubio, "Ted, that might work. We've tried everything else, but I'm not sure we can get away with it. What would Hillary do?"
Cruz wants to use IRS to beat up on Trump but says he wants to eliminate IRS. Too funny. Using Clinton and Obama tactics is not conservative or honest.
Great point, FRiend. Well said.
Cruz can talk all he wants to about eliminating the IRS...Ain’t gonna happen...
No matter how much we wish it would, it ain’t gonna happen....
Career politicians like Cruz are specialists in primary season red meat no hoper issuse. Defunding PP is another one. No way this rotten Congress defunds PP yet Cruz makes it a cornerstone of his campaign.
Isn’t it the truth???
That’s one difference I see between Trump and the professional politicians...
The politicians talk...Trump does...
Which must mean Cruz and Rubio are hiding “bombshell” information that’s extremely damaging to them, like their support of Mobsters, Pol Pot, Kim Jong-un, Nicolás Maduro, Planned Parenthood, Sanders or Hillary, right?
Hillary will beat Trump.
She already has the 40 to 45% of the vote that will go democrat no matter what..
Why are you copying and pasting this in a million threads.
The American people have rejected the phony piousness of Ted Cruz and you need to deal with that fact. Trump will win the general backed by millions of American patriots of all creeds. Deal with it.
TPP TPA or obamatrade is so bad for America (worst thing ever)
that just this 1 web page I link here proves that
1.TPP will be the end of America
2. Cruz is a total fraud, liar , charlatan
3.Only Trump can save us from TPP and total destruction
4. TPP allows 3rd world countries to send 100’s of millions of immigrant workers into the USA as immigrants
I’m sure that Cruzers will call me names etc. but try to do it after seeing the evidence at that link or web page I just posted(try to read all that web page). Then tell me how all that I say here is not true or why? it is true and just that one link proves all that. of course there’s even more evidence elsewhere but showing that 1 web page proves all that shows the threat we in America face.
This is a must read for every American. Cruz was so arrogant that he thought none of us would ever understand all his manipulations and they are totally evil, corrupt, heinous , manipulations.
Only 5 threads.
It was easier than actually going on the threads.
I simply could not stand reading any more inane comments from Trumpers.
Besides, I just wanted to warn you all that Hillary can and will beat Trump if you are so foolish as to nominate him.
can I copy this on my FB page?
Flat tax.
Yes
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