Confusion follows Trump flip-flop on key immigration issue

Mt. Vernon Register-News ^ | March 10, 2016 | Byron York

[WENDLE]

IT IS LEGAL. What is it about legal immigration that is not liked here? We will STOP illegal Aliens — Not legal!!

[Parmenio]

So you are saying that Cruz and Trump hold the same position, and both want increased immigration and more H1-Bs. Good luck with that.

[ConservingFreedom]

IT IS LEGAL. What is it about legal immigration that is not liked here? We will STOP illegal Aliens — Not legal!!

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform: "We graduate two times more Americans with STEM degrees each year than find STEM jobs, yet as much as two-thirds of entry-level hiring for IT jobs is accomplished through the H-1B program."

[ConservingFreedom]

he wants to increase H-1B visas 500%.

False. From https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/:

Amend the H-1B visa program to fulfill its original purpose: Work with Congress to pass reform legislation for the H-1B visa program that will:

• Create an advanced degree requirement: Only individuals with advanced degrees in their respective fields may be brought to the United States with an H-1B visa. And preference will be given to those with advanced degrees from American universities.
• Create a "layoff cool-off" period for all H-1B visa applications: Companies must wait one or two years between laying off a worker and bringing in any H-1B foreign workers to ensure that the program is not used to displace American workers.
• Establish accreditation or recognition requirements for overseas schools: The recent lack of federal oversight of the H-1B visa program has fueled a cottage industry of diploma mills. Foreign academic institutions must meet minimum accreditation standards at least as stringent as those imposed on American universities in order to qualify for the advanced-degree requirement.
• Require sworn affidavits describing domestic hiring efforts: Companies will provide sworn statements and documentation that detail their efforts to hire Americans before requesting foreign workers through the H-1B visa program. Individuals who make false statements in these affidavits will be subject to perjury charges.
• Suspend companies from H-1B visa eligibility for failure to help foreign workers obtain green cards: Many companies misuse the H-1B visa program to train foreign workers that they intend to send back overseas to compete with America. The law must impose additional requirements on employers to pursue Legal Permanent Resident status on behalf of their H-1B visa-based foreign workers, or risk loss of access to the program.

"Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions Roll Out Antidote To Broken H-1B Program: American Jobs First Act" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371276/posts

"Ted Cruz Explains why His Position on H-1B Visas Has Changed" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3376485/posts

[TheStickman]

Nope but you can assume whatever you wish.

Hope you have a very Happy March 15 :)

[ConservingFreedom]

Trump said in last week's debate: "I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position".

He stated the next morning that he wasn't talking about H-1B: "Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration".

So what WAS he talking about? What's his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?

Sure he will tell you. He will send specific proposals to Congress, as soon as he is sworn in.

So we have to elect the candidate to know what he believes - like passing the bill to find out what's in it, Ms. Pelosi?

Keep pushing the suggestion in your posts that Trump supporters are “low information” folks

So you don't want to talk about candidates' positions, but about who's being a big meany-pants. Got it.

[TheStickman]

You expect people to believe what’s on a Cruz website after his votes on Obama-trade? After he’s hired Neil Bush?

After him saying today, “Donald does well with voters who have relatively low information, who are not that engaged and who are angry and they see him as an angry voice.” You expect me to believe a thing he has on his website as gospel?

Have a nice day :)

[TheStickman]

“So you don’t want to talk about candidates’ positions,...”

Not when you are quoting a GOPe operative. Might as well post a link to Mitt Romney’s views on anything.

Have a great day :)

[WENDLE]

I think that is a good area for legislative review. I assure you that Trump did not preclude intelligent thoughtful review and modification on existing law. I know we are used to a President who is a dictator but if that is what you want, vote democrat.

[DoodleDawg]

He will uphold the law or help Congress change the law.

Why change the law is he has no problems with what is being done under it?

[WENDLE]

Have a great day . Remember to vote for Bernie.

[moehoward]

"What someone,,somewhere needs to ask Trump is what is your plan for the good ones once they come back in"

It's been asked and answered. Wall, enforcement, deportations, then reform the process so that when and if it benefits the country allowing legal immigration is a common sense "expedited" process.

This from Roy Beck NumbersUSA founder - "He would start giving legal status to illegal aliens who have gone home ONLY after the "bad" illegal aliens have been deported from the U.S.

Once the prerequisites have been met, he would move quickly to get deserving illegal aliens back into the United States.

"Trump has put a lot of "have-to" steps before the amnesty* would be given. Those steps might take years."

*Important to note some, including Cruz, do not consider "legal status" to be amnesty. Clearly Roy Beck does.

[moehoward]

No idea. I didn’t see the debate. and I sure as hell wouldn’t take some hatchet job quote involving MEgyn Kelly as evidence of anything.

The quote I posted is from a couple days ago and seems to be consistent with everything else.

[ConservingFreedom]

TRUMP - “The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration

So what WAS he talking about, if not H-1B, when he said in last week's debate: "I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position"? What's his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?

The quote I posted is from a couple days ago and seems to be consistent with everything else.

But it doesn't answer my question (which is about HIS words and not Megyn Kelly's).

[for-q-clinton]

In other words...trump is fine with status quo.

[DoodleDawg]

Have a great day . Remember to vote for Bernie.

Trump. Sanders. To-may-to, to-mah-to. I'm supporting the conservative in the race, Ted Cruz.

[Freedom56v2]

Thanks for posting...If his stance had changed 2 years ago or even early on in the campaign, I might have had faith in these changes. However, I don’t now...to clarify:

He has very recently changed his position during the campaign, but he did not move on it for over 2 years...and I contacted his office. Others did too. BTW, the H-1B Visa program is only the tip of the iceberg...Seriously, the problem starts in colleges with the issuing of unlimited foreign student visas that enable business to hire foreign foreign grads at a savings over US citizens right after college—no H-1B visa required (he did not address that either). The entire program is corrupt.

Also, I am not sure I trust this change given his funding sources and his very recent pro-Obama trade votes which will likely override any comments he has made during a campaign. The trade votes are packed with immigration visa expansion...

Sessions went with Trump too. I am still a Trump first choice voter.

[Ozymandias Ghost]

“In other words...trump is fine with status quo.”
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I know you’re not that obtuse; and, you know I said nothing of the kind. The “status quo” has been abusive to what the intent of the H1B legislation stipulated. Trump is against that abuse.

[moehoward]

I can’t help you beyond providing his unedited position.

You seem to want clarification on some out of context quote.

[for-q-clinton]

No the status quo is what you just described as you said that’s what they are doing now. So what would he do different than they are currently doing (based on what you described).