Confusion follows Trump flip-flop on key immigration issue

Mt. Vernon Register-News ^ | March 10, 2016 | Byron York

[dirtboy]

Maybe actually enforcing the law as written?

[Wpin]

No, you really are just stupidly petty...obviously you fall for any distortion your rulers present to you. Try doing some real thinking in the future and you will not do so badly...and you will probably not be so damn petty.

[ConservingFreedom]

we do not have enough educated people to compete in the global market place

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform: "We graduate two times more Americans with STEM degrees each year than find STEM jobs, yet as much as two-thirds of entry-level hiring for IT jobs is accomplished through the H-1B program."

[DoodleDawg]

Maybe actually enforcing the law as written?

What happened to the workers at Disney was legal under the law as written.

[ConservingFreedom]

Trump said in last week's debate: "I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position".

He stated the next morning that he wasn't talking about H-1B: "Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration".

So what WAS he talking about? What's his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?

you really are just stupidly petty...

You're the one vigorously dodging a simple question.

[RginTN]

Cruz moves to the Right on issues and is called gopE trump moves to the left and is called a fighter for the worker. Operation chaos2.0

[Solson]

ok break down the supposed STEM degrees. How many in each discipline? There are not enough ENGINEERING and COMP SCI folks, with experience, in the market right now. Especially comp sci with strong backgrounds.

When we do find them, they're costing more than $150k per year.

[MIchaelTArchangel]

T.Rump is just another politician who will say anything to get elected so he can use the power of the government to expand his own person power and wealth.

[for-q-clinton]

I just figured out what is going on with Trump. Remember the movie Trading Places where two rich guys made a $1 bet on how people will behave based on circumstances?

I think Trump made a bet with a fellow billionaire that he could win the GOP nomination while talking about his penis size, making his supporters take a loyalty pledge that makes them look like Nazis, supporting planned parenthood, giving money to the most likely democrat nominee, and calling his supporters uneducated. Looks like Trump is going to win that bet too!

[Mechanicos]

And the issue was not H1B visas as used now as others have shown but much higher level people the program was meant for - the same as Cruz’s position.

[ConservingFreedom]

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform: "We graduate two times more Americans with STEM degrees each year than find STEM jobs, yet as much as two-thirds of entry-level hiring for IT jobs is accomplished through the H-1B program."

ok break down the supposed STEM degrees. How many in each discipline?

Ask Trump - he thinks the fact he presented is telling.

There are not enough ENGINEERING and COMP SCI folks

So we have too many science (S) and math (M) folks - none of whom can do engineering or tech?

When we do find them, they're costing more than $150k per year.

And American workers shouldn't be paid that much?

[ConservingFreedom]

And the issue was not H1B visas

Trump said in last week's debate: "I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position".

So what WAS he talking about, if not H-1B? What's his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?

[Solson]

Here is the list of "STEM" degrees. Did you psychology is considered a STEM degree??

The numbers are bunk when broken down...which is why Trump was right to soften his stance on this.

http://stemdegreelist.com/

[amihow]

The H1b workers are high tech. Donald needs to get his facts straight and articulate publicly where the hell he stands. He is losing people, especially those of us so affected by to many legal and illegal immigrants too fast.

[MNJohnnie]

Got it. Only Trump matters. Cruz flaws are to be ignored or whitewashed at all costs.

[amihow]

H1bs are good for six years? as I remember and they bring in highly skilled to displace our own highly skilled.

Learn the facts.

[ConservingFreedom]

There are not enough ENGINEERING and COMP SCI folks

From Trump's link: "Engineering has the highest rate at which graduates move into STEM occupations, but even here the supply is over 50% higher than the demand. IT, the industry most vocal about its inability to find enough workers, hires only two-thirds of each year’s graduating class of bachelor’s degree computer scientists. "

[Solson]

Yes - we have too many irrelevant degrees under the wide umbrella of "STEM." - Not enough related to comp sci thus the need.

And generally, unless you're a psych graduate who also knows how to code or set up infrastructure or databases, no, you cannot do that work.

On the price - let em make as much as they can. The good ones are 3x-5x more efficient and productive than offshore resources.

[ConservingFreedom]

Got it. Only Trump matters. Cruz flaws are to be ignored or whitewashed at all costs.

What "flaws" do you see in the following? From https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/:

Amend the H-1B visa program to fulfill its original purpose: Work with Congress to pass reform legislation for the H-1B visa program that will:

• Create an advanced degree requirement: Only individuals with advanced degrees in their respective fields may be brought to the United States with an H-1B visa. And preference will be given to those with advanced degrees from American universities.
• Create a "layoff cool-off" period for all H-1B visa applications: Companies must wait one or two years between laying off a worker and bringing in any H-1B foreign workers to ensure that the program is not used to displace American workers.
• Establish accreditation or recognition requirements for overseas schools: The recent lack of federal oversight of the H-1B visa program has fueled a cottage industry of diploma mills. Foreign academic institutions must meet minimum accreditation standards at least as stringent as those imposed on American universities in order to qualify for the advanced-degree requirement.
• Require sworn affidavits describing domestic hiring efforts: Companies will provide sworn statements and documentation that detail their efforts to hire Americans before requesting foreign workers through the H-1B visa program. Individuals who make false statements in these affidavits will be subject to perjury charges.
• Suspend companies from H-1B visa eligibility for failure to help foreign workers obtain green cards: Many companies misuse the H-1B visa program to train foreign workers that they intend to send back overseas to compete with America. The law must impose additional requirements on employers to pursue Legal Permanent Resident status on behalf of their H-1B visa-based foreign workers, or risk loss of access to the program.

"Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions Roll Out Antidote To Broken H-1B Program: American Jobs First Act" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371276/posts

[ConservingFreedom]

Not enough related to comp sci thus the need.

From Trump's link: "Engineering has the highest rate at which graduates move into STEM occupations, but even here the supply is over 50% higher than the demand. IT, the industry most vocal about its inability to find enough workers, hires only two-thirds of each year’s graduating class of bachelor’s degree computer scientists. "