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To: Albion Wilde

My experience as a longtime businessperson has been fleshing out and explaining many of his concepts on FR, only to be dismissed, told I’m a hater, or ridiculed about stuff I know like the back of my hand.

I know what you mean. Actually they have been using this venue to evaluate their talking points and now dominate it. Many Cruz supporters no longer use this venue because of those nattering nabobs of negativity tactics.

It is too bad this used to be the place to go to find out what the heck is going on. Right now there us a whole bunch of congressional races going on and nobody us posting them or discussions about supporting government shut downs or the overreaching of some of these agencies like the EPA or IRS besides what the INS is doing. It has become a Trump Dump. Conservatism is out. It is now, you have heard the expression soup de jour, well this is; mode de jour politique (populist) politics.


173 posted on 03/13/2016 9:06:09 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's becaus e of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: mosesdapoet

I like to say that history is a process, not an event

a process of nominating primaries is underway and is dominating the FR argument. my experience teaches me that that will be largely over by Thursday or so.

At some point any way, the process will revert back to the normal discussion and argument on conservative ideas and issues not directly related to the Presidential race.

However, we will likely be subject to the self righteous pontificating of those that declare they won’t vote because the stick in the icecream was a little off center. These cop outs will begin in two or three weeks. that is part of the process

We can only hope there will be cool heads able to provide wise counsel to sooth the worried minds and develop a consensus that will allow us to prevail aginst the wicked withc from Arkansas


174 posted on 03/13/2016 9:18:43 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: mosesdapoet
I'm not sure I understood your post. To me it seems that both of the main camps (Cruz & Trump) have reasonable people in the center of the bell curve with a smaller but louder tail of emotion-driven haters on the one end, and the "voiceless bewildered" on the other. I'm on the "mostly-reason-but-sometimes-sarcasm" part of the curve. I try not to call people idiots, etc. But I'm not above a mild put-down based on wordplay or the like. Mostly I try to counter speculation with links to data or facts.

The haters start out with the assumption that they are superior in wisdom and talk down immediately. The more reasonable people try to discuss issues but soon get flamed by the superior types, who actually are insecure in their information, wisdom or faith -- otherwise they wouldn't find other opinions so threatening.

Personally, I hate to see outright misinformation spread, or hard-and-fast conclusions drawn based on an obviously manipulated media stream. There are many people who truly do not understand that their biases or emotions are not the same as facts or evidence.

The important thing is not to let the nasty loudmouths skew your opinion of the whole group of those who favor or disfavor a candidate. There are people in "my" candidate's camp who consistently embarrass me with their name-calling and trash-talking, and they make me just as uncomfortable as the ones who do it on the other side. That kind of talk doesn't help.

177 posted on 03/13/2016 10:06:41 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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