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1 posted on 03/20/2016 9:51:20 AM PDT by John W
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“One of the Cruz endorsements comes from Monsignor Ed Lofton, pastor at St. Theresa Catholic Church in Summerville, S.C.”

The Catholic Church as been “all in” for illegal immigration for decades. They need the members because members equal money, particularly when the members are functionally illeterates from Mexico and points south. Meanwhile back south of the border priests there are telling their “parishoners” that they must procreate with abandon, because “it’s God’s will,” so they can brew up the next generation of border crossers.


2 posted on 03/20/2016 9:59:38 AM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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As far as I know, all of the writers and signers of the original statement, are Catholic and Evangelical laypeople --- except this one priest, Fr. Lofton of SC.

He should not have signed it with his religious identification. Priests are legitimately called to address moral issues, including ones with public policy impact, but they have no business as priests endorsing or opposing candidates or political parties per se.

If Fr. Lofton to endorse Cruz, he should arguably sign the statement as "Mr. Ed Lofton, citizen and voter."

3 posted on 03/20/2016 10:00:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He can do anything he wants. I'm giving him the red light." -- Yogi Berra)
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I am as a conservative Catholic as you can get, born, bred and went to Catholic School, I can tell you this piece of crap article is just what it is POS...

I am 100% for Trump, Trump is an American first, a business man second, and loves America and the American People, he can see what these neo-cons have done to this great Country, so don’t spread around the lies that Catholics aren’t supporting Trump, we are in droves!!!


4 posted on 03/20/2016 10:01:53 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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... former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli

I'm sure Cuch remembers Trump donating to Clinton butt sniffer Terry McAuliffe a couple years ago, when McAulife beat Cuch by two percentage points in the race for VA governor.

7 posted on 03/20/2016 10:04:27 AM PDT by FreeReign
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We’re a nation of pu**ies if we don’t elect Donald Trump.


9 posted on 03/20/2016 10:08:02 AM PDT by RC one
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This conservative Catholic is more conservative than Cuccinelli. I’m 100% for Trump.Those who want Cruz as the Republican nominee are the GOPe because they KNOW he has NO chance of winning in November. Name one state, just one, Cruz can win that Mittens did not win.


14 posted on 03/20/2016 10:13:38 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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“Conservative Catholics endorse Ted Cruz as Trump alternative”

How many?

“More than 50”

So 51.


16 posted on 03/20/2016 10:16:12 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3410412/posts

The post above “A Catholic apology...” for screed of Princeton’s Prof. George (leader of the group headlined here). Note the “A Catholic .....”

There are something like a billion Catholics, but the headline here doesn’t say FIFTY (50) Conservative Catholics Endorse Cruz. Seems leaving out that # is highly deceptive. Especially by contrast to “A.”


17 posted on 03/20/2016 10:17:32 AM PDT by EDINVA
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I am a conservative Catholic and this article is CRAP!

I am for Trump all the way!


19 posted on 03/20/2016 10:18:32 AM PDT by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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These open border “catholics” are probably controlled by freemasons and should be excommunicated.


23 posted on 03/20/2016 10:32:58 AM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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I am a practicing Catholic and support Trump for president.

If the people running our country were as holy as Mother Teresa or Padre Pio, I would not support Trump, but unfortunately they are a brood of Vipers and are less holy than Judas Iscariot. Trump is the only who seems to care that this country is being sold down the river and that we need to rebuild our economy again. In the wake of the fall, God states that it is by the sweat of our brows that we shall live. Paul states that if someone refuses to work, do not let them eat. One could argue Sanders cares, but that man is batshit crazy and the wrong proposal on every count. Cruz is also a lawyer and this country is drowning in laws; we do not need more laws.

The Catholics endorsing Cruz, led by Princeton professor Robert George and former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli,

Both of these two fall into the category of elites who have safe jobs. I suspect they are also in the brood vipers mentioned above.

cited Cruz’s opposition to abortion and gay marriage and his advocacy of religious freedom as the reasons for their support.

Trump has stated that the abortion aspect of Planned Parenthood should be defunded. We also have large numbers of people fighting for unborn children at the moment. We do not have people fighting for any of the people who have lost their jobs or livelihoods.

“No one has been stronger than Ted in standing up for religious liberty and other fundamental constitutional freedoms,” said George in a statement posted Friday (March 18) on Cruz’s website. “He will foster a culture, from the top down, that honors the Constitution – the one thing that, despite our differences, binds us all together as Americans.”

For standing up for our freedoms, that argues in favor of the person for Solictor or Attorney General, not president. Also, if we continue to export jobs, sooner or later, people will not care about the constitution.
26 posted on 03/20/2016 10:37:50 AM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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Who gives a smelly obama what these groups think? Anyone who believes that Catholics are some homogeneous, universally guided group when it comes to politics are just plain ignorant.


28 posted on 03/20/2016 10:43:22 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Rubio: All the slipperiness of Bill Clinton, with none of the smarts.)
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wrong


39 posted on 03/20/2016 11:24:47 AM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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Thanks! Great news. If we don’t vote pro-life, pro-marriage and pro-religious liberty, the U.S. will die as a nation. Tweeted this one out.


45 posted on 03/20/2016 11:41:38 AM PDT by JediJones (I'm with Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Dana Loesch, Steve Deace, Michelle Malkin, James Woods & Ben Shapiro)
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"No one has been stronger than Ted in standing up for religious liberty and other Constitutional freedoms."

"He will foster a culture from the top down that honors the Constitution-the one thing that, despite our differences, binds us together as Americans."

This sums up nicely why I'm voting for Ted Cruz.
(And I also happen to be Catholic.)

48 posted on 03/20/2016 11:57:58 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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I read the comments with much interest. I figure I am just as much a Conservative Catholic as anyone else here can claim.

The first response was simply a diatribe against Catholics and nearly caused me to exit the thread.

The fact is this [according to me] ;>) :
Neither candidate is perfect - but who on earth is perfect???

I see Donald Trump as smart, a capable executive, has a decent family. However, his persona is one of egotism and narcissism - “I love me to death.” But, he is correct on loving his country and being righteously angry about the current political leaders in the country. I still hope he will show more maturity in his actions and verbiage on the campaign trail. Tone down your vulgarity please.

As for Ted Cruz - he is the most reliable Conservative and really will defend the Constitution and our rights. He does not have an appealing, warm, persona, however, and that will reflect upon his ability to gather support in an election. And one more thing - his continuing insistence that he is the only true Conservative running does get a bit tiresome. It sounds a bit like bragging, to me - like he thinks he is perfection.

So, we have two candidates who each have high opinions of themselves - which intrinsically is neither good or bad.


51 posted on 03/20/2016 12:03:53 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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Cruz has lied and pulled fast tricks on other candidates. Why would any God-fearing person endorse him?


55 posted on 03/20/2016 1:20:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The essay by Weigel etal, esteemed Catholic writers all, is worthy of every Catholic's
thoughtful consideration. I had given it as much the day it came out, and while I claim no
such distinction as they, I found their argument not convincing.

They state: "the Republican party has been a vehicle — imperfect, like all human
institutions, but serviceable — for promoting causes at the center of Catholic social
concern..." and then go on to list 4 areas: 1) life issues 2) religious freedom 3) marriage
4) limited government. I don't accept that the GOP has been successful on any of these,
although individuals within the ranks have voiced correct stances. Does Trump represent
a dismantling? Where is their evidence?

In the previous email I quoted his evolution on abortion (of course not fully correct, nor
Catholic), but as Fr. Pavone says: "Even if one argues that it is politically beneficial and
even necessary for him to make that change in order to have a shot at the Republican
nomination, it still does not follow that his change of views on abortion is not real and
sincere," and Cruz's characterization of Trump's stance is not accurate, as I cited.

Trump gives no indication of rolling over on religious freedom - quite the opposite. He
states that the Supreme Ct ruling on homosexual marriage was a mistake and needs to be
handled by the states. And limited government? Are they saying Bush 1, Bush 2 are
proponents of this? It's laughable. Precisely because of their globalist agenda are they
miles from subsidiarity. It is Trump who argues for local control, as he does regarding
Common Core which the GOP & Bushes favor, something missed by our esteemed writers.

They state: "at the beginning of the current presidential electoral cycle, it seemed possible
that further progress in defending and advancing these noble causes was possible through
the instrument of the Republican party. That possibility is now in grave danger. And so
are those causes" In great danger because they may be out of power? How has the GOP
promoted these "noble causes"?

They say: "His appeals to racial and ethnic fears and prejudice are offensive to any
genuinely Catholic sensibility. He promised to order U.S. military personnel to torture
terrorist suspects and to kill terrorists’ families" Racial and ethnic fears? These are the
words of the Left, of the Media. They provide no evidence. Isn't that the tactic of the
Left? The smear? Isn't this beneath such writers as these? And regarding "torture", surely
good Catholics can accept waterboarding and other tactics permitted by international
agreements? Another cheap shot, the sweeping statement of "killing families". Trump
says that families, knowing of the terrorist plots, are not necessarily given safe passage
anywhere, but can be considered co-conspirators, on a case-by-case basis. Trump holds to
the strategy of unpredictability, so that those who would do us harm do not know what
our response will be. This strikes me as effective leadership.

They say: Trump represents "vulgarity, oafishness, shocking ignorance, and — we do not
hesitate to use the word — demagoguery". Demagoguery: a leader who makes use of
popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power. Our esteemed
writers are setting aside reasoned analysis and labelling Trump with pejoratives, but not
different from the media, the Establishment politicians, the Wall Street Insiders, Leftists
generally.

These writers are largely connected to the National Review, which publication came out a
month ago with an entire issue, by all the writers, saying why we must all be saved from
Trump. These writers fail to understand the plight faced by the average American, I think
because of their comfortable positions, their circle of friends, their pleasant lives. This
doesn't make them defective people, only lacking in understanding of what the mass of
Americans are facing after 8 years of Obama. They are as comfortable as the bishops in
the chanceries, who, with probably some exceptions, look down upon Trump and wail.
And who among them came to the defense of free speech when Trump was mobbed by
the Soros-funded mobs in Chicago? Who will protect these writers in their comfort when
the gangs of the Left gather through the spring and fall? And who will protect these
writers from the globalists, eager to sign the TPP deal and put the final nail in the coffin
of the middle class?

Globalism is not a Catholic principle, and for us,
Trump is the lone voice against globalism.
58 posted on 03/20/2016 1:37:00 PM PDT by jobim
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Why should any Catholic vote for a guy who compares going to Holy Communion as eating a cracker as well as ridicule confession ? Have as many wives as Henry de VIII, boast about his maritial infidelitys,and even jokingly suggest insest. Worst of all show any comprenension as to that the current strategy ammounts to a war on traditional values fostered by Christians. Because they oppose the Godless movement. A tradition that stands in opposition to the Godless (remember their 2012 convention) democrat (in name only but in reality socialist) party

Thousands including many Catholics thought they were responding via Trump in effect telling the pope to go to hell . But it was intended and used, as a left handed Trump endorsement. which the media not Trump engineered and Trump after learning the facts should have apologized and condemed this, instead used it..

Pope Francis responded to accusation loaded questions by a Reuters news agency reporter and did not believe those accusations. So the pope never mentioned Trumps name . Here in abstract; replied using the term One, to generalize his example and began with; If actually one said and continued with : One does, one did, one believes :It was meant to be a generalized position applied to anyone when answering the questions that were presented to him .Yet the US media turned this statement vy Pope Francis : Those that only focus on building walls and not bridges are not Christian. into: Those who build walls not bridges like Trump are not Christian. Turning a generalized position into a personal attack by no less the pope If they voted that way because of that reason They were mislead by machinations of the media not rejection of actions voters thought were made by the pope.

MSM ignored the constititionalist Cruz who says illegals are out and are to never return position but knowingly used the bombastic Trump who has a round trip ticket position about amnesty and silence from Trump about any border wall fence funding discussion going on during the GWB administration. Where the democrats killed the funding. Perhaps he was too busy managing his Trump U. Fleecing trusting souls who are now engaged in suing him for misrepresentation.

THIS PRIMARY DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE GIVE TED CRUZ YOUR VOTE
THE ONLY CANDIDATE COURAGIOUS ENOUGH TO BATTLE AGAINST WHAT AMMOUNTS TO A WAR ON RELIGION ...
The leftist medias anti religious agenda is now busy minimizing the Cruz candidacy claiming Cruz can not win by emphasizing Christian values in: Marriage, planned parenthood, abortion and the citing of positions on these subjects taken by Trump. Urge Ted to stay the course and defeat this blowhard . We want back to the days of the constitution and the government out of our bedrooms, kitchens, gas tanks, back yards, as well as our religions. Who will pick justices that keep it that way .

During a Face the Nation interview, Sen. Ted Cruz declared he would not accept the Scalia vacancy. That is not a job I am interested in. Cruz added, The job I am interested in is appointing 3, 4, 5 Supreme Court justices, defending the constitution. Ted Ctuz vowed that as president he would reverse the damages one by Barack Obama to the constitution.;


64 posted on 03/20/2016 5:04:16 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's becaus e of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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50........... wow ...........hahahahahahahahahaha


72 posted on 03/21/2016 6:37:20 AM PDT by zzwhale
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