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Trump and Palestine (Vanity)
Free Republic ^ | March 22, 2016 | Piranha

Posted on 03/22/2016 12:22:32 AM PDT by Piranha

There has been a lot of confusion here on Free Republic about Donald Trump's use of the word "Palestine" in his AIPAC speech. Some people are very disturbed and others don't understand why it is an issue.

The issue is that the Arabs have taken the name Palestine to signify a new nation for Arabs. Some Israeli leftists talk about two nations, Israel and Palestine, existing side by side. Radicals in the US and Arab nationalists in the Middle East talk about a new country called Palestine replacing Israel. When a speaker talks about peace between Israel and Palestine, there is a built-in assumption that Israel will have to yield control of land in Judea and Samaria (i.e., the West Bank), and contend with a new Arab nation carved out of its midsection.

The implication of using the word Palestine is that Israel is holding Judea and Samaria in trust for the Arabs and will have to give it up once the Arabs come to their senses. Therefore, whenever Israel builds a new town, or even builds new housing in an existing town, or even purchases a building from and Arab, Israel is accused of stealing territory that should be held in reserve for ultimate conveyance to the Arab state of Palestine. Israel building homes for its people in Judea and Samaria has been a major source of contention with the US for years, based on this thought process.

I have no doubt that Donald Trump is one of the most pro-Israel candidates ever to run for President. I support him because I think he is good for America, which desperately needs to change direction, and he is good for Israel. I believe that he presents an image of careless talk, but chooses his language carefully, particularly in a written speech.

Trump set out criteria for discussions that lead to peace, and they will never be met. The Palestinians never will stop naming streets, parks and stadiums after mass murdering terrorists and they never will acknowledge Israel as the Jewish state. By using the name Palestine, Trump cast doubt on the legitimacy of Israeli control over Judea and Samaria now and in the future. This is why many pro-Israel conservatives who are very much pro-Trump regret that he used the term Palestine.

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2016election; aipac; districtofcolumbia; election2016; gaza; israel; jerusalem; judea; letshavejerusalem; libbyluposting; movetheusembassy; newyork; palestine; samaria; trump; waronterror; westbank

1 posted on 03/22/2016 12:22:33 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Piranha

So Trump fooled you plagiarizing Cruz today with a speech someone wrote for him?

2 posted on 03/22/2016 12:30:59 AM PDT by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: Piranha

Sounds like something out of pants suits mouth, the article.

This isn’t about make israel great again, think we have given enough money and blood.

Carter and his buddy Arafat, what a failure.

This is about Make America Great again, hence our Republic.

Starts at home folks.

3 posted on 03/22/2016 12:31:56 AM PDT by 80skid
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To: libbylu

One trick pony libby - I still can’t believe you were ever allowed to post here after your degrading lame opus.

Carry on, Cruz and your tall tales fit together perfectly.

Btw, what is his real name?? And where is his Mom, did she pass?

4 posted on 03/22/2016 12:34:18 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Piranha
Trump is well advised. He used the phrase with full knowledge of its meaning. Similarly, the current administration uses the acronym ISIL, since the Levant includes present day Israel.

Occam's razor applies. The use of "Palestine" is a dog whistle.

5 posted on 03/22/2016 12:34:20 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Piranha

The morning news make much of Trump’s statement (alleged), that he, as president, would remain neutral on the Israel-Palistinian fight. I think the intended MSM slant was that Trump would stay out of it. But it became clear, watching Trump’s delivery on some other matters, that he meant that the U.S. would stop bitching at Israel about defending themselves. The side Obama has taken is, generally, aimed at shaming Israel. Neutral is a step in a good direction.

And did the MSM mention Trump’s statement of intent to move the U.S. embassy to the “eternal capitol” of Jerusalem? (no)
Trump’s remarks got strong support....more Than Hillary or Ted’s theatrically gesticulated boilerplate rantings.

Trump was cool, sincere, and discernable as having no forkage in his tongue.

He continues to impress me:

“...and the world will know that there is NO DAYLIGHT between the State of Israel, and the United States of America.”

6 posted on 03/22/2016 1:29:29 AM PDT by dasboot
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To: dasboot

I listened to Trumps speech last night. I am a Cruz supporter who has decided that Cruz can’t win and that he should back Trump and go to the Supreme Court. In listening last night to Trump I was impressed with what he said. There was no political double speak, he clearly said that Israel was our ally, our best ally in the Middle East. He mentioned that Israel was the only democracy in the Middle East.

I liked what he had to say. I must say that I am beginning to like Trump, not just put up with him but like him.

7 posted on 03/22/2016 8:24:04 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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