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Group seeks to raise state minimum wage
Sierra Vista Herald ^ | Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services

Posted on 04/02/2016 10:00:36 AM PDT by SandRat

PHOENIX — Arizona voters could get a chance this November to set the minimum wage for workers at $12 an hour by 2020.

Or $9.50.

Or perhaps just whatever $8.05 an hour now plus inflation by that point equals.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2008election; 2016election; alexmeluskey; arizona; election2008; election2016; johnmccain; minimumwage; phoenix; scottsdale; senatorjohnmccain; senatormccain; voters
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1 posted on 04/02/2016 10:00:37 AM PDT by SandRat
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To: SandRat

Because it worked so well for Seattle.

And soon, for California.


2 posted on 04/02/2016 10:01:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (This is Satan's time, filled with madness, bloodlust, and despair.)
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To: SandRat

How do you lose jobs? Establish a high minimum wage.


3 posted on 04/02/2016 10:02:19 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Why doesn’t this “group” just make up the difference themselves and send a separate check to all minimum wage employees. These busybody commies should not be telling employers how to run their businesses. If they want to pay minimum wage employers more money, they can start their own businesses. This is Nazi and commie stuff.


4 posted on 04/02/2016 10:05:52 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a dump, sewer or "refugee" camp. It's my home.)
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To: SandRat
In 1965 the minimum wage was $1.25 an hour. That figure adjusted for inflation comes to about $9.50 in today's money. I don't see the problem with the minimum wage keeping up with inflation.

JMHo

5 posted on 04/02/2016 10:14:04 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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At age 17 I worked in Yellowstone Park in 1968....as a waitress...made 1.50 an hour...and had to pay for room & board, too. Still came home with about $700 for the summer.


6 posted on 04/02/2016 10:19:52 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner)
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To: Rashputin

PS....minimum wage isn’t meant to be a LIVING WAGE...it’s a STARTER wage.


7 posted on 04/02/2016 10:20:29 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner)
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To: goodnesswins
Well DUH.

If you think $9.50 is anything more than a starting wage you're either used to hiring nothing but idiots or used to looking at one in the mirror.

8 posted on 04/02/2016 10:22:45 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: goodnesswins

Were gratuities allowed?


9 posted on 04/02/2016 10:24:18 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: goodnesswins

When there wren’t millions of illegals and people weren’t slaughtering the oncoming generations in the womb, there were always jobs for high school kids to start at minimum wage because the demand cycle was intact.


10 posted on 04/02/2016 10:24:42 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Tips? Yes.


11 posted on 04/02/2016 10:26:27 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner)
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To: Rashputin

When there weren’t so many REGULATIONS on kids mowing lawns, working in the fields, etc....there were jobs for kids.


12 posted on 04/02/2016 10:27:14 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner)
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To: goodnesswins
Don't tell me, let me guess. You're a Free Traitor, too. Ending over regulation doesn't change the fact that inflation has eroded the value of the dollar to the point that realistically you have to have ten dollars to buy the same thing you could buy for a buck in 1965 excluding the eye candy technology that people got along fine without. Meaning, to feed you damn family.

Of course, murdering you children to avoid the entanglements of a family is a good thing, right? Either wake up or quit making a fool of yourself. Over regulation is a separate issue from inflation/devaluation whether you like that fact or not.

13 posted on 04/02/2016 10:34:00 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: SandRat

Democracy is 20million looters telling 10,000 business owners how to run their businesses.


14 posted on 04/02/2016 10:42:19 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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To: Rashputin

You’re so special.


15 posted on 04/02/2016 10:48:06 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner)
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To: SandRat

I wonder when McCoon will get on board with this.

Ya cant talk sense to these people-and that includes some on this site.

We have a business market in regs to labor in this country. Which means, there is an over supply of labor. Yet the assholes want to let millions more of illegals in to flood the labor force even MORE. Then, they welcome the mass deportation of manufacturing jobs out of the country to do what? To take advantage of even more cheap labor.

When the supply of labor goes down, the market reacts and wages goes up.

Trump is the only one who understands this. He and a relative few.


16 posted on 04/02/2016 10:49:24 AM PDT by crz
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I heard once that the ones who want this know that it will make many unemployed. That is the goal, more people on the dole. Business out of business.


17 posted on 04/02/2016 11:01:40 AM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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"Trump is the only one who understands this. He and a relative few.""

If there wasn't an oversupply of illegal labor there wouldn't be much of an issue about the minimum wage even if it were adjusted to keep up with inflation because the market wage would be well above the current minimum wage.

Fifteen an hour is far above where it would be after adjusting for inflation, though, but that's the typical democrat fascist bread for the masses they provide circuses for through their media arm.

18 posted on 04/02/2016 11:04:28 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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I see these minimum wage laws as an unconstitutional taking of private property.

Minimum wage laws are just one more way socialists forcibly confiscate money from earners and direct it to those who haven’t earned it.

When the government forces a business to pay $12 an hour for a job worth $7 an hour the extra $5 hasn’t been earned by the employee.

It is wealth a business or entrepreneur has earned but is forced to redistribute, to give away, under threat of punishment by the government.

The whiners, aided by the federal government, try to use minimum wage laws to convert businesses and private enterprise ventures into just another wealth redistribution mechanism.

To use them as an extension of government to implement social policies.

Minimum wages are really a way the government co-opts freedom and free enterprise by dictating what a business can, or has to do, with its capital and profits.

Instead of the government taking more money in the form of taxes and handing it out to people who haven’t earned it, they order businesses to hand it out directly by using their power to set higher minimum wages.


19 posted on 04/02/2016 11:08:25 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Noah: 'When the animals began to pair up by specie and stand in line, I really took notice.')
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To: Rashputin
In 1965 the minimum wage was $1.25 an hour. That figure adjusted for inflation comes to about $9.50 in today's money. I don't see the problem with the minimum wage keeping up with inflation.

All well and good. or so it seems at first glance. However. the effects reach beyond the published minimum hourly wage.

Consider Social Security deductions. Employee payroll deduction is 7.75%, while the employer is taxed at 15.3% of employees "Contribution". So SS along with other mandated taxes increase overall expense of the employee to a point where static sales and or services costs become insufficient to maintain the business, absent price increases. In the mean time the minimum hourly wage earner sees the increased FICA deduction and Fed and State taxes from his paycheck and by definition not the sharpest, starts screaming to the employer about being ripped off. Happens ever single time.

As others have pointed out on FR, Federal, state, and municipal employees as well as union hourly rates are pegged to the hourly minimum wage, thus increasing the burden on tax payers immediately and down the road as overall pension costs kick in.

So the politicians and unions are all in for it, as taxable wages are increased to further the insane government spending.

20 posted on 04/02/2016 11:36:13 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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