Posted on 04/06/2016 10:27:04 AM PDT by azkathy
Shucks, I thought maybe Elizabeth Warren would come out and side with the Finicum family. /s
Yep. Aggravating a governor is definitely a capital offense.
They were shooting at him at the first stop.
Oh wait, he did do that.
He was daring the yellow cowards that had already shot at him, to shoot at him again, to his face.
They chose his back, down the road.
And the fbi snipers lied about shooting at him, too - so THEY are criminals, also.
When are they getting arrested? :)
Interview of Mel Bundy’s brother in law telling about the arrest of Mel by the FBI. They came to arrest him with guns a blazing. He says, “Be aware people are losing their freedom. You would have thought it was a cartel bust.”
Hillary Clinton can “lose” $6,000,000,000 of taxpayer money from the State Department while she’s the Secretary of State and nobody in the government says a word.
But sit on a government toilet too long in Nowhere, Oregon and the government will kill you.
What a shameful, shameful performance by law enforcement.
This was incompetently planned by law enforcement and incompetently executed by law enforcement.
Khalid Sheik Mohammed is STILL LIVIN LARGE IN GITMO...
the planner and operator of 9/11/01 in which thousands of Americans were murdered....
WHY?
Major Hassan is still alive after he murdered Americans at Ft Hood...
WHY?
An American was murdered after having PROTESTED the illegal activities of the BLM......
THIS IS AMERICAN JUSTICE UNDER AN ANTI-AMERICAN RACIST MUSLIM COMMIE TRAITOR BACKED UP BY A CORRUPT DOJ AND A DO NOTHING REPUBLICAN LED CONGRESS...
unarmed and shot in the back..... cold blooded murdered plan and simple
where is JUSTICE...???????
Xzins, I do not believe it was an execution at all.
I do believe that there was absolutely no sense in the planners and managers putting the officers and the protestorrst in the position that they put them in. I hope that the government loses big time in civil court over this issue.
It is clear that they intended to make an example out of them, and it is clear that the whole John Day meeting was a set up to get those very leaders away from the others and out alone on those roads.
But the fact is, there were numerous laws, whether we agree with them or not...whether we think their application was needed or not...that the people around Bundy had broken.
Once they had stayed at the Wild Life Refuge for over 14 days, they were in violation of the law. As soon as the broke into one or more of the government vehicles and drove them around, as some of their number had done, they had violated the law.
So, once the Law enforcement officers decided to act on those things that they had done wrong, and set up their vehicles in a position to first stop Bundy and those two cars, and then to block the road should any of them tried to get away, Lavoy made decisions that led to his shooting.
He did not have to drive away form the 1st stop. In so doing, he fled law enforcement which was a crime.
He did not have to try and go around the road block. Once he did, and came very close to hitting the one officer, he turned it into felony evasion and assault.
He did not have to get out of the car and act as he did. Once he did and did not comply with the officer’s demands to get down, he put himself into mortal danger with almost any sudden action that he might have made towards his belt or jacket.
I know Lavoy wanted to try and tell the officers that he was going to a meeting in John Day. But I believe that whole meeting was a clear set up from the get go to draw these very leaders out.
They were never going to get to John Day.
Once they were stopped, Lavoy was not going to convince any of those officers to simply let him drive on to John Day...which is what everyone on the two cars were hoping to do.
If this was meant to be an execution, they could have killed all of them out there on that road.
But they did not.
Lavoy was a good man. A patriotic man who helpd he beliefs and his intentions to the highest standards. He was willing to die for them.
No death needed occur there and I believe Lavoy’s family is going to win in coivuil court...which will not bring him back.
In criminal court, because of the things I just described...I do not believe there is any chance of him prevailing.
Having said that, it is also clear that some of the shots that were fired by deferral Law enforcement, which were not noted or recorded, and which two or three of them tried to cover up...are going to land those officers in deep trouble...and they need to be in deep trouble.
I have personally been involved in the “War on the West,” as many of us call it, here for the last 20 years.
There is no doubt that rights are being trampled and that ou of control agencies and admnistrations have continued to put undue pressure on the people.
I have been at two or three of these activities in the past. I would have strenuously adivised against going out on that trip to John Day. IMHO, they whould never have done it.
I would have advised them, after the first 14 days when they got so much good press and were able to get on national TV and explain what was oing on to have backed off before the deadlines for staying at the Refuge, and turned the thing into a nation-wide campaign to take advantage of the good press and the great explanations that they had given...so that they could have perhaps arranged a large gathering of patriots in DC before the elections.
But everyone has to make their own decisions.
They determined to continue to occupy the refuge and put as much pressure on the local agencies and personnel as they could.
At the point that they took to the road together like that, they were going to either all be arrested or end up having a huge shootout, which you can bet the Fed and State people were prepared for with far superior numbers and force.
As it was, had they all complied, I do not believe anyone would have been injured or killed...but they would all have been arrested and all of them would be fighting it out in courts like the rest are going to do now.
I mourn for Lavoy. He was a good Christian man and a patriot who did not have to die. I mourn for the Bundy family. The grandfather and his sons (some of who were right here from the small town in Idaho where I live) are not likely to see the light of day for 20 years.
My prayer now is that we can get a Cruz or Trump in there as President who would review the whole thing and issue complete pardons for them all, including the men there in Nevada whose sentences were redone and then thrown back in jail for something that they should never have been in jail for in the first place.
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I disagree. They wanted to kill the spokesperson to make an example. There was NO reason to shoot this man! You have more faith in law enforcement ppl than i do. There are good cops but these jerks were scum!
FBI arrests another defendant in Oregon standoff
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Federal authorities have arrested a Montana man accused of taking part in the armed occupation of an Oregon wildlife refuge.
Jake Ryan was booked into a Portland jail Tuesday on charges of depredation of government property, conspiracy to impede officers and possession of weapons in a federal facility.
You are correct and I know the cops that killed LaVoy are not the only crooked ones. Listen to the Bundy women interview pay close attention to Brianna, she is Mel’s wife. She says he was beaten-there is a little glitch in the video right when she says that but I know it is true. I am friends with a lady who “beat down doors” and has friends who work in the prison system. She had sergeants looking for Mel for several days before they found him.
This is her statement after I listened to the Bundy women interview. I was asking her questions about the condition of Mel when her “friend” found him. “Yes, beaten by the undercover FBI mercs and if I didn’t find him he may have died. He was very badly beaten and was covered in vomit and feces. He was laying on the ground in a dark cell. They call the cell the FBI shark tank. He was removed on the fourth day upon us finding him.”
This Government is corrupt and it is frightening what they are doing to our fellow citizens. Just how bad is it going to get in the next year?
He did not have to drive away form the 1st stop. In so doing, he fled law enforcement which was a crime.
Some nameless leo was trying to be a "hero" at the place where Finicum first stopped. The nameless "hero" tried to shoot a 40mm tear gas round into the truck. If he would have succeeded, Finicum and the rest would have been forced out of the truck, and into the hands of law enforcement.
Instead, the nameless leo "hero" provoked the whole following situation by leading Finicum and the rest to believe they were being fired upon - which they were.
Are you arguing that fleeing law enforcement that is shooting at you for no reason is "a crime", Jeff?
He did not have to get out of the car and act as he did. Once he did and did not comply with the officer’s demands to get down, he put himself into mortal danger with almost any sudden action that he might have made towards his belt or jacket.
I beg to differ. Once again, a nameless leo "hero" [an fbi sniper] was trying to shoot Finicum even as the truck came to rest in the snow.
We see Finicum pop out of the truck, and immediately the driver's side passenger window is shattered by another shot from our nameless fbi sniper "hero".
As a matter of fact, this nameless fbi sniper "hero" and his fbi buddies are now in trouble for covering up the fact that he fired his weapon. An honest Law Enforcement agency, the Deschutes County Sheriff's Department, discovered the evidence of these shots, and did the right thing by disclosing the evidence.
Finicum didn't "put himself in mortal danger" - he WAS in mortal danger before the truck came to rest.
BTW - I believe that the way the roadblock was set up is defined as "deadly force" by many law enforcement agencies - including the US Department of Justice. Setting it up around a blind curve merely aggravates the deadly force already in place.
I don’t believe the “shut up and obey the law if you don’t want to get shot” attitude...NOT when it is a bad law and written by corrupt, dishonest lawmaker overlords. This is America - those men had every right to protest and to drive to a meeting, without getting shot at! They were not looting and vandalizing and then given a pass for skin color. They hurt no one. They stood up for themselves and were punished severely.
I had an amazing 3 hr conversation with Brianna Bundy, wife of Mel Bundy this evening. I will tell her story after a few hours of sleep.
Synopsis is, pray for America and all the patriots. She has confirmed that he was beaten within an inch of his life while in federal custody. She knows her life is at risk but she is willing to fight for all of us!
Her assignment is to find out who Mel says beat him.He hasn’t been able to speak freely but I will tell you this, I have confirmation that he was beaten while in FBI/FED custody and I have evidence that he wasn’t resisting arrest even though that is what the authorities will say.
It truly is scary times for America. Please pray for Mel Bundy and the other Patriots. (Mel tells his wife he “feels” the prayers, but he feels lack of prayer in the mornings and around mid day.) I told her I will spread the word and we will pray for him.
What an amazing woman! She is willing to stand up against the tyrannical government in spite of her fears. After they arrested Mel, the FBI “lasered her house” for 4 hours that night. According to Brianna, it is just an intimidation tactic and she is not backing down.
Are you willing to stand with the patriots?
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