This makes it very clear that these people were willing to talk, and were on their way to talk to a sheriff.
The agents were informed of that multiple times.
This becomes more and more clear as an execution.
For the life of me, it makes absolutely no sense to kill in this situation in which some people were trying to make a political point and had holed up in an empty shack in a federal park/forest.
They NEVER would have done this because OCCUPIERS were living on government property in eastern cities.
Looks like murder by execution.
Too bad LaVoy wasn’t black.
You can tell the keystone idiots werent ready for him to stop where he did.
They didnt ID themselves until asked and had already started pointing laser sighted weapons directly at LaVoy.
They initiated the “traffic stop” with deadly force.
Flushed him into their waiting trap.
Then two “state troopers” both shot him in the back 3 times with AR-15s.
Xzins, I do not believe it was an execution at all.
I do believe that there was absolutely no sense in the planners and managers putting the officers and the protestorrst in the position that they put them in. I hope that the government loses big time in civil court over this issue.
It is clear that they intended to make an example out of them, and it is clear that the whole John Day meeting was a set up to get those very leaders away from the others and out alone on those roads.
But the fact is, there were numerous laws, whether we agree with them or not...whether we think their application was needed or not...that the people around Bundy had broken.
Once they had stayed at the Wild Life Refuge for over 14 days, they were in violation of the law. As soon as the broke into one or more of the government vehicles and drove them around, as some of their number had done, they had violated the law.
So, once the Law enforcement officers decided to act on those things that they had done wrong, and set up their vehicles in a position to first stop Bundy and those two cars, and then to block the road should any of them tried to get away, Lavoy made decisions that led to his shooting.
He did not have to drive away form the 1st stop. In so doing, he fled law enforcement which was a crime.
He did not have to try and go around the road block. Once he did, and came very close to hitting the one officer, he turned it into felony evasion and assault.
He did not have to get out of the car and act as he did. Once he did and did not comply with the officer’s demands to get down, he put himself into mortal danger with almost any sudden action that he might have made towards his belt or jacket.
I know Lavoy wanted to try and tell the officers that he was going to a meeting in John Day. But I believe that whole meeting was a clear set up from the get go to draw these very leaders out.
They were never going to get to John Day.
Once they were stopped, Lavoy was not going to convince any of those officers to simply let him drive on to John Day...which is what everyone on the two cars were hoping to do.
If this was meant to be an execution, they could have killed all of them out there on that road.
But they did not.
Lavoy was a good man. A patriotic man who helpd he beliefs and his intentions to the highest standards. He was willing to die for them.
No death needed occur there and I believe Lavoy’s family is going to win in coivuil court...which will not bring him back.
In criminal court, because of the things I just described...I do not believe there is any chance of him prevailing.
Having said that, it is also clear that some of the shots that were fired by deferral Law enforcement, which were not noted or recorded, and which two or three of them tried to cover up...are going to land those officers in deep trouble...and they need to be in deep trouble.
I have personally been involved in the “War on the West,” as many of us call it, here for the last 20 years.
There is no doubt that rights are being trampled and that ou of control agencies and admnistrations have continued to put undue pressure on the people.
I have been at two or three of these activities in the past. I would have strenuously adivised against going out on that trip to John Day. IMHO, they whould never have done it.
I would have advised them, after the first 14 days when they got so much good press and were able to get on national TV and explain what was oing on to have backed off before the deadlines for staying at the Refuge, and turned the thing into a nation-wide campaign to take advantage of the good press and the great explanations that they had given...so that they could have perhaps arranged a large gathering of patriots in DC before the elections.
But everyone has to make their own decisions.
They determined to continue to occupy the refuge and put as much pressure on the local agencies and personnel as they could.
At the point that they took to the road together like that, they were going to either all be arrested or end up having a huge shootout, which you can bet the Fed and State people were prepared for with far superior numbers and force.
As it was, had they all complied, I do not believe anyone would have been injured or killed...but they would all have been arrested and all of them would be fighting it out in courts like the rest are going to do now.
I mourn for Lavoy. He was a good Christian man and a patriot who did not have to die. I mourn for the Bundy family. The grandfather and his sons (some of who were right here from the small town in Idaho where I live) are not likely to see the light of day for 20 years.
My prayer now is that we can get a Cruz or Trump in there as President who would review the whole thing and issue complete pardons for them all, including the men there in Nevada whose sentences were redone and then thrown back in jail for something that they should never have been in jail for in the first place.