Posted on 04/17/2016 4:26:01 AM PDT by Kaslin
“So, I say, in the name of Jesus, stick the terrorists under the water”
Let’s leave Jesus’ name out of it. It’s an unpleasant but necessary practice. No reason to play into the hands of Muslim propagandists while we’re at it. Do what needs to be done and move on.
The application of religion to war is misguided. Unless one is committed to war, one is committed to what amounts to self destruction. The point is especially true when the war is waged by one side in the name of God.
The misguided quest for “humane” action is a quest for losing
The question becomes must the war be redirected against those that whine for Humane Principle?
You may be on to something. A water boarding baptism. That ought to terrify the jihadist and drive the left insane... Okay, more insane.
Here is a question that, I think, is more pertinent: Is it Koran-ical to cut off heads, burn or drown people in cages, massacre by suicide bomb IED or other device, etc., etc?
What’s with bringing the Bible into the discussion as a means of clouding the issue, and by introducing false guilt, giving terrorists an edge and an out?
We’re talking National survival here. Since our sworn enemy has taken no extremity off the table in their eternal drive to convert and/or enslave every soul on the planet; we cannot exclude any tool that will aid us in defending ourselves. We will limit ourselves from utilizing outright torture. However, waterboarding is NOT torture.
It’s just effective.
Dear Muslim: Is it halal to be a terrorist?
I do not care one whit what they do to terrorists.
Yes when you are fighting a just war to protect innocent Christians and others around the world.
Is it Christian to prevent a monster from killing many multiples of innocents? Yes. “Here, ached, have another drink.”
Indeed. After all, it's not as if the Bible carries any weight in other government-sanctioned and condoned activities like a woman's right to an abortion kill her unborn child.
Why all the hand-wringing over the (ahem) tender sensibilities and tenuous comfort of a terrorist? We call them terrorists because they seek to inflict terror upon others, no? And often to inflict it wholesale. Further, by choosing to be terrorists, they've willingly surrendered their membership in the Fellowship of Man--and all its commensurate rights and privileges.
They are worse than feral humans. They've chosen to be beasts, So, treat them accordingly.
Perfect solution for the sanctimonious: Christian waterboarding. These bleeding deacons forget that waterboarding does not harm the recipient, it just scares him. And the intel gained may save many lives.
I don’t think waterboarding is anything more than psychological manipulation but you can’t justify a thing for men to do based upon acts or attitudes God reserves to Himself. Vengeance is mine and a jealous God etc.
Perhaps you haven’t experienced it first-hand.
Render unto Caesar that which are Caesars and unto God that which are Gods. Mark 12:17
Terrorist render unto us first. God can have them when we are done.
Does your God warn us to fear Him? Does He threaten us with eternal separation from Him in hell? Is your God one of judgement and righteousness or is He simply sweet and tender? Christ is no pacifist.
Which is worse: waterboarding a known terrorist, or allowing a mass murder to occur?
Jesus was a little tough on the money-lenders
That is not particularly a moral question, especially given that the hypothetical dichotomy is unlikely to exist in that exact form. "Is waterboarding a very effective way to gain useful or essential information?" must be determined by the prudential judgment of national security professionals. (Given that our national security professionals don't want to be prejudiced by reading potential terrorists' Facebook posts, we might take a jaundiced view of their prudential judgment, but that's another issue.)
Jesus was a little tough on the money-lenders.
He made a "whip of cords," a rope flail of some sort, and swatted at them with it as they scuttled from the Temple premises, leaving their money scattered on the ground. It boggles my mind that any rational person would conclude from that event that Jesus "approves" of torture.
Yes.
Does He threaten us with eternal separation from Him in hell?
Yes.
Is your God one of judgment and righteousness ...
Yes
... [or](sic) is He simply(sic) sweet and tender?
He is ALSO sweet, tender, and merciful beyond the reach of human comprehension.
Christ is no pacifist.
I agree.
However, none of this agreement is relevant to my point about the article's author. Among other things, he has advocated anal rape for pre-teen boys who were guilty of bullying. I find that much more Moslem than Christian.
Everyone wants to think the God of the OT and NT are different or somehow more evolved. Yet Jesus WAS in the OT and Jesus DOES spend alot of time talking about the coming judgment in which HE will carry it out. The covenants may be different (with Jews, with Christians) but the God that told the Israelites to kill an entire group of people (including children) in some wars, and when they came into certain places in Canaan, or who murdered the first born in Egypt is the SAME GOD. Hence there may be times when acts of war are allowed. God himself describes in the bible how he will use a “more evil” nation to exact judgment on a “less evil” nation (e.g. Babylon, Assyria), then punish the former nation. Poetic justice is all through the bible and very scary concept.
Is it Christian to tolerate a terrorists that you know would torture and kill you if given the chance.... is it Christian to know that terrorist has information that would save thousands of lives, and not get that information because you are the only nice guy in the room...
I read where some Christians think it’s anti Christian to not take in muslim refugees, house them, feed them, school their children, free medical, and pay them welfare. We have AMERICANS who don’t get that much help or sympathy.
Without vetting every individual that is brought into our country, it’s Christian to be smart enough and wise enough to know there is no way we can have them here. Without vetting every individual, there is no way to know they are not terrorists at heart. To be kind to such an enemy is weak and ignorant.
They are a “religion” that has been taught to kill the infidel. Children as young as 5 are in that mix. Their “religion” is not one of peace, it’s one of total domination. There is no room for Isaac... they believe Ishmael was the chosen one. And Isaac has to be obliterated.
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