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Kasich attacked for telling female coeds not to attend parties “where there’s a lot of alcohol”
Hotair ^ | 04/16/2016 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 04/17/2016 6:31:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Here’s one suggestion for all of the presidential candidates out on the trail this month… don’t get involved with any questions regarding all the unrest at the nation’s colleges. The campuses are just festering holes of distraction overrun by Social Justice Warriors who are essentially going to be a lost cause until they get out of there into the real world and receive a stiff dose of reality. And whenever the candidates try to address some of the concerns being raised there will always be somebody ready to smack them down, no matter how reasonable or well intentioned the response may have been.

A prime example of this phenomenon was on display when Ohio Governor John Kasich gave a speech in Watertown, New York and took questions in a town hall format. A young woman who is a freshman attending a college near there asked Kasich what he would do, “to help me feel safer and more secure regarding sexual violence, harassment, and rape?”

Now, in any normal version of the universe, that should be a completely reasonable question for a young co-ed to ask. Going out into the world with a bunch of strangers can be scary and there are incidents of violence no matter where you go. (The entire “campus rape culture” myth is overblown, but any young person should be rightly concerned for their own safety and remain aware of possible threats.) Unfortunately for Kasich, we don’t live in that reasonable world and he was silly enough to try to answer her. He starts off well enough, telling her she should make sure that, if she’s attacked, that she can go somewhere to safely and confidentially report the crime and have access to a rape test kit. (That’s actually handled by a medical professional, but still… good advice. Make sure they have them on hand.)

But things took a turn when Kasich went further and tried to administer some common sense. (ABC News)

The student, who said she studied at St. Lawrence University in Canton, New York, replied, “It’s sad, but it’s something that I have to worry about.”

“Well, I would give you — I’d also give you one bit of advice,” Kasich replied. “Don’t go to parties where there’s a lot of alcohol.”

The audience applauded.

If you live somewhere in the vicinity of the real world, that’s an incomplete answer, but it’s at least the starting point for some good advice. However the Democrats were having none of it.

Democrats pounced on Kasich’s response. “Republican presidential candidates like John Kasich and Donald Trump are insulting women everyday [sic.] on the campaign trail by blaming victims of sexual and domestic violence,” a spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee, Christina Freundlich, said in a statement.

This kind of stupidity is enough to have me spitting nails and it’s out there infesting the media on a daily basis. Obviously Kasich isn’t “blaming” anyone for anything. He’s simply pointing out some common sense which sadly isn’t all that common anymore. But as I said, it’s also incomplete. Allow me to fill in the blanks.

First of all, this young woman’s age is not stated, but if she’s a college freshman there’s a good chance she’s 18 or 19. The drinking age in New York is 21. (And pretty much everywhere else in the country as I recall.) So for starters, tip number one is… don’t break the law. And if you do, be prepared to face the consequences if the cops raid your party.

Next, be aware that if there are any actual potential rapists attending the party, yes… alcohol may potentially fuel them to act out on their impulses. If you’re going to go drinking while underage at such a party, go with friends, preferably including some larger male friends who you trust and have a plan to stick together and keep an eye on each other.

Third, do your best to be able to protect yourself if things go south. If you are of legal age and do all the required paperwork, get a gun and put in the time to be both safe and proficient with it under any circumstances. (Though since this girl is in New York the odds of getting a pistol and a permit to carry are nearly nil. In other states her chances would be better.) Failing that, carry some mace or a stun gun. Take a self defense class. Work out at the gym. Be ready to fight if you have to.

Fourth, if you are attacked and (hopefully) survive an actual rape or other sexual assault situation, talk immediately to the police as soon as your urgent medical needs are attended to. Insist on a private situation to make your report and even a female officer if that helps you deal with the trauma from such a horrible event. Just make sure you get the cops involved immediately. If you go to some kangaroo court comprised of university faculty or the student government I will not blame you for your rape, but I will blame you for the next girl who gets raped because you didn’t help the cops stop the monster and put him in jail.

And finally, if you get tipsy and decide to go home with some drunk guy and have sex, don’t wake up feeling regret and call the cops and say you were raped. You were both drunk and stupid and made bad choices. See tip number one above. (This doesn’t apply if you were blacked out on your feet or unconscious. Sexually assaulting the incapacitated is still sexual assault.) But while we’re on the subject… don’t get black out drunk around a bunch of strangers! That’s not “blaming” you or excusing an attacker, but you are severely compromising your ability to defend yourself in a potentially dangerous situation. Keep your wits about you and be aware of your surroundings. It’s a dangerous world and law enforcement can’t be everywhere. Your parents should have taught you all of this, but in case they didn’t I’m here to help.

If Kasich had launched into that diatribe he might have actually helped some people. Of course, he’d also be under attack from the SJW far more than he already is. (As I’m sure I will be now. So be it.)

KasichFist


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KEYWORDS: alcohol; coed; kasich; rape
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1 posted on 04/17/2016 6:31:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah. He coulda’ said go to the parties, just don’t get toasted.


2 posted on 04/17/2016 6:33:50 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The discussion with daughters has to start when they are young. A parent needs to teach them how stuff works in the world.

Are women responsible for getting raped? Of course they are not. But there are some consistent things a woman can do to avoid being in that situation.

Avoid going to parties where there will be a lot of alcohol by yourself. The buddy system works great.

A politician trying to answer that question as if the government has any power to prevent rape is an idiot.

So Kasich gets 1/2 credit for his answer. But his first answer should have been, “That’s a stupid question.”


3 posted on 04/17/2016 6:35:39 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Vermont Lt

He should also have expanded the answer beyond alcohol to any illegal substances that reduce inhibitions.

One area mores have changed quite a bit is today’s younger crowd seem to do things in groups more so than I did at that age. Probably a good thing. On the other hand, they seem less demure. My niece for example went to europe for a month with a boy pal. I figured they were intimate but my concept of intimate was not hers. To her intimate meant a monogamous relationship, so sleeping with some guy across Europe was not intimate. Oh well, times change I guess. Fortunately no accidents. Two years later she is engaged to someone else.


4 posted on 04/17/2016 6:49:14 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t go to parties that Bill Cosby is the host


5 posted on 04/17/2016 6:52:05 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: Mouton

A man’s first job is to protect his home. Posted it before. The left cares about your daughter as much as Bill Clinton.


6 posted on 04/17/2016 6:53:03 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The official DemocRAT Party advice? Don’t go out in public without your husband or a male family member, cover yourself from head to toe with a black burlap sack including a veil, don’t wear any makeup or personal hygiene products and get yourself sexually mutilated so there’s no incentive for you to enjoy sex.


7 posted on 04/17/2016 6:53:35 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rktman

Or get slipped a “mickey”.


8 posted on 04/17/2016 6:54:25 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s attacked because he’s White, and colleges encourage drunkeness because it leads to promiscuous sex which they favor.


9 posted on 04/17/2016 6:54:55 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Candy’s dandy

but....

Liquor’s quicker

(fact of life)


10 posted on 04/17/2016 6:57:44 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Sounds like this advice from my dad: He knew he was cashing in and told me that if anything befell any of the women in the household, it fell on me to ensure there was payback. He, had been a cop, told me don’t expect the police to fix your problem. You are smart, just don’t get caught!

Ten years before that advice, there was a riot in a neighboring city. He was called out to help set up a road block to keep the urban outdoorsmen from marauding up the highway. His advice as he left the home, after raiding his personal arsenal: you are in charge here, don’t let anyone take the house!


11 posted on 04/17/2016 6:58:53 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Common sense is often ignored by youth, both male and female. A 20 year old white guy shouldn’t be strolling in Harlem after dark. A 20 year old woman shouldn’t get stoned at a party full of sexually crazed drunken males. In each case they would be innocent victims of attacked, but guilty of stupidity for exposing themselves to risk. The police can barely keep the streets safe in daylight. They can’t protect anyone at night in a ghetto or inside a frat house.


12 posted on 04/17/2016 6:59:50 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess we need a new law that requires women wear a chastity belt if the Blood Alcohol level exceeds .08 %.


13 posted on 04/17/2016 7:10:46 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: SeekAndFind

But what fun would that be?

14 posted on 04/17/2016 7:17:15 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: SeekAndFind

A broke clock.


15 posted on 04/17/2016 7:18:24 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: SeekAndFind
There's not allot I can come alongside Kasich, but this one he has a point.

If a gal wants to protect herself from sexual assaults, don't go to a party dressed in revealing skimpy clothing and get totally wasted where you pass out around a bunch of drunk walking hard-ons.

It is the exact same thing as not walking to an ATM in the 5th ward of Houston at 1am in the Saturday morning, drunk with no pistol. Withdraw a $100 bucks and stand there counting it $20 dollar bill by $20 bill.

Same exact thing. You open yourself up to being thumped. So they can rail on Kasich all they want, but intelligent folks know exactly what he meant.

16 posted on 04/17/2016 7:19:36 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: rktman
Or used the old saying “Candy is Dandy, but Liqueur is Quicker" to warn them.
17 posted on 04/17/2016 7:23:53 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: littleharbour

Amen, bro. Common sense isn’t as common as it used to be.


18 posted on 04/17/2016 7:27:39 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
... help me feel safer and more secure regarding sexual violence, harassment, and rape?”

My advice...Don't fornicate, don't hang around other fornicators, don't let your values be influenced by your godless professors, fear God, pray daily, read the bible every day, attend worship and seek older women in the church to hold you accountable, marry and stay married until death a Christian man then stay home to raise his children, preferably home school them in the nurture and admonitions of the Lord and don't elect liberals who promote immorality and tyranny (yes tyranny is immoral) from either party.

19 posted on 04/17/2016 8:04:06 AM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another case in which a state issue is now becoming federalized...


20 posted on 04/17/2016 8:09:56 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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