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In his own words:Why Trump would not participate in Colorado or Wyoming
YouTube ^ | April 17, 2016 | Donald J. Trump

Posted on 04/17/2016 5:26:43 PM PDT by gg188

The "ground game" or whatever other euphemism it goes by consists of one thing: BRIBES. Bribes to party bosses and to delegates to circumvent the decision of the voters. Trump took the moral position that he was not going to participate in a rigged system of PURCHASING influence and delegates. Cruz DID not. (Cruz is more accustomed to SELLING influence than buying it, so I guess he gets a point for that.)

"We didn’t play in Colorado, because I heard that it was going to be for the bosses, the RNC, so I’m not going to waste a lot of money, don’t forget that I am self-funding, so when I spend money it’s my money, it’s not some PAC’s money where people are giving it just because they want to have influence, and they want their local politician or their politicians to do what they want them to do. So we didn’t play because the game was rigged.

"You take [the delegates, bosses] on trips, put them in hotel rooms, I don’t want to play that game. I’m winning with the voters and I’m winning big. The party bosses do this thing in Colorado, Wyoming, Florida. I don’t want to play the game. You’re buying these people. You ARE BUYING THESE PEOPLE.

Donald J. Trump, April 17 - Staten Island press conference

"I could have gone to Colorado and met the head guy and sent him all over the place, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PAY OFF THESE DELEGATES. It shouldn’t be allowed. Let’s don’t play the game. They go out and wine and dine, you have no idea, crooked process, dishonest process. IT’S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO WE HAVE A BAD SYSTEM AND THE SYSTEM HAS TO CHANGE." CONTINUED IN COMMENTS

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: dumptrump; itsnotfair; patheticexcuses; poorbabies; rump; trumpanzees; trumpcult; trumpdisease
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To: Pollster1

Wow, you can copy and paste from ‘issues’ websites. Dazzling.


41 posted on 04/17/2016 7:10:58 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

~sigh~


42 posted on 04/17/2016 7:15:41 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: sargon
The only comment I made was "the idea that nobody voted in Colorado wwas a gargantuan lie", and you responded with none sentences that didn't even attempt to address my point. Provably because people actually did vote in Colorado if the bothered to show up at the caucuses.

Cruz's success had nothing to do with a superior ground game, and everything to do with the fact that he's the new GOPe designated "NeverTrump" candidate.

That's close to being correct. But it's not the "GOP-e" lining up behind Cruz. It's the rank and file majority of Republican voters who do not support Trump who are lining up behind Cruz because we can't stand Trump. And we're votng for delegates who will back "anyone but Trump" if it gets passed the first ballot at the convention.

That's exactly what happened in Georgia. Trump had a plurality at 39%, but Cruz and Rubio supporters together were 48% of the vote. So the 48% lined up against the 39%, and won.

43 posted on 04/17/2016 7:18:04 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Iowa David
>You Trump supporters actually believe Cruz paid these people off? You don’t believe they did this because they want to see Cruz elected? Seriously?

I've heard stories of Cruz backers offering delegates lump sums of physical cash to support Cruz. Lyin’ Ted's made it pretty clear that he will do anything to win.

44 posted on 04/17/2016 7:18:17 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: gg188

Trump is a pathetic asshole.


45 posted on 04/17/2016 7:19:18 PM PDT by wny
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To: Pollster1

As soon as Lyin’ Ted Cruz stops lying about Trump all the damn time we’ll stop calling him that.


46 posted on 04/17/2016 7:23:42 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

>The idea that nobody voted in Colorado is a gargantuan lie. But it’s been repeated enough that a lot of folks believe it.

Regular GOP members were not allow to vote for presidential candidate. It’s not a lie.


47 posted on 04/17/2016 7:25:01 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
The idea that nobody voted in Colorado is a gargantuan lie. But it’s been repeated enough that a lot of folks believe it.

Post GD elections numbers of the Colorado population, listing how many millions or hundreds of thousands voted and for which candidate.

Post it. Do it. Let me see the voter counts!

48 posted on 04/17/2016 7:34:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RedWulf
They voted for delegates, who in turn voted for other delegates, etc. Basic representative democracy, which is exactly how caucuses work. Would it be accurate to say "nobody voted" in Iowa?

It was the exact same way Colorado has chosen electors for the last 14 years. And I'd point out that even for Presidential elections, we vote for electors, not for the actual President. And if no candidate wins a majority of the electors, it gets tossed into the House, where our elected representatives vote for the President.

Kind of like how if no candidate has a majority on the first ballot at the Convention, it gets tossed to the judgement of the delegates we elected.

49 posted on 04/17/2016 7:36:00 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Post GD elections numbers of the Colorado population, listing how many millions or hundreds of thousands voted and for which candidate.

Post it. Do it. Let me see the voter counts!


50 posted on 04/17/2016 7:36:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Just because I personally do not have access to the delegate vote totals does notean those votes did not occur.

But let's be clear - are you saying that the people who attended the Caucus did not vote for delegates?

51 posted on 04/17/2016 7:37:43 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

>They voted for delegates, who in turn voted for other delegates, etc. Basic representative democracy, which is exactly how caucuses work. Would it be accurate to say “nobody voted” in Iowa?

Stop lying, Iowa had a binding presidential preference poll along with electing delegates, which Colorado did not. “We the people” was not represented in the process in Colorado and it disfranchisement close to a million GOP voters.


52 posted on 04/17/2016 7:38:15 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
>And I'd point out that even for Presidential elections, we vote for electors, not for the actual President. And if no candidate wins a majority of the electors, it gets tossed into the House, where our elected representatives vote for the President.

Wow more lies from a Lyin’ Ted supporter? Shocking.
In the presidential race we vote for electors who are bound to only vote for the candidate who won the state by popular vote. Which is the exact opposite of what happened in Colorado.

53 posted on 04/17/2016 7:41:36 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Bull sh*t.

Lets see the results.

Lets see the elections results of the *voters* of Colorado. Not some corrupted concocted musical chair charade by the political hack insiders.

Or are you suggesting this election show put on in CO was legitimate, above board and honorable?


54 posted on 04/17/2016 7:42:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RedWulf
Did the people who put forth the effort to show up for the caucuses get to vote for delegates? Yes, or no?
55 posted on 04/17/2016 7:43:21 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Lets see the CO voter election results. There had to be at least a million voters involved.

Where is it?


56 posted on 04/17/2016 7:44:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Hey Chin, were any of those who wanted to get involved forced to pay money, or were paid money to do what they were told?


57 posted on 04/17/2016 7:47:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

> Did the people who put forth the effort to show up for the caucuses get to vote for delegates? Yes, or no?

Without a presidential preference poll it was a pointless vote because you had no idea if the delegates would vote the way you wanted them to. Which is why non corrupt states that let the people vote have a presidential preference poll.


58 posted on 04/17/2016 7:53:51 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: dragnet2
No, there weren't a million because not that many chose to show up. Whose fault os that?

Let me ask you this - did you show up to vote in the Colorado caucuses? If not, why not? I can guess the answer, but I just want to be sure....

Oh, one more thing. Trump said he made a deliberate decision to to compete in Colorado because it was crooked, right? Well then why did he hire someone to be his rep in the state? And why did he fire the guy two days before the caucuses?

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trumps-weak-delegate-operation-could-derail-his-nomination

Isn't that curious? What he's now trying to characterize as some kind of principled stand was in fact nothing more than the result of the dysfunctional/incompetent staff he put together.

59 posted on 04/17/2016 7:55:21 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Lets see the CO voter election results. There had to be at least a million voters involved.

Where is it?

there weren't a million because not that many chose to show up.

None of the voters in CO showed up to vote? Ya think I'm buying that? Not even a couple hundred thousand?

I'm growing tired of your skit Chin.

Lets see the election results of the CO voters. You know, the people, the voters. You know what that is right?

It should be posted all over the place. There had to be at least 1/2 million to 3 million in CO who voted.

Where is it Chin?

60 posted on 04/17/2016 8:01:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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