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Pennsylvania Making Millions by Selling Your Driver's Record.
NBC10 Philadelphia ^ | Friday, May 6, 2016 | NBC10.com

Posted on 05/06/2016 5:29:07 AM PDT by Carriage Hill

The information on your driver’s license is a gold mine and Pennsylvania is cashing in. The NBC10 Investigators found the state has earned more than $157 million since 2010 selling driver records.

An NBC10 analysis of the more than 32,000 private companies and government agencies to which PennDOT sold driver information, traced it to every state in the country.

The companies include credit agencies, insurance companies and car dealerships. The information PennDOT sold includes names, addresses, and driving histories.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: confidential; driverslicense; information; pa; paping; privacy; property
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To: fruser1

There are those who “need” to see it, and there are those who “want” to see it. It’s important to differentiate.


21 posted on 05/06/2016 8:58:18 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

Another presumption on your part.

You interpret “PA sells records to x company” as “PA sells ENTIRE SET of driver records to x company”.

I sincerely doubt this is the case, again, because the article makes no specific mention of it one way or another.

Consider this - I can think of 10 car manufacturers off the top of my head. Another google shows over 2500 towns and municipalities in PA. Multiplying that out gives 25,000 private companies able to get driving records.

So if you go to a car dealer who wants to check your record before letting you test drive, this would be a legitimate purpose, yes? If not, how about auto policy quotes, rentals?

If every dealership has checked records for this reason, the article could “truthfully” say that PA sold records to 25,000 companies.

If the article had a headline such as:

PA mans goes to State Farm for auto policy quote - agent checks his driving record!

You probably would not click on that headline, would you.

Don’t be a sap.


22 posted on 05/06/2016 9:06:36 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Indeed it does!


23 posted on 05/06/2016 12:00:50 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: fruser1

This article is about PA selling driver file info to private companies for their ***data mining*** use, in marketing. The timeframe, as stated in the article, is “since 2010”.

Read the first line of the article: “The information on your driver’s license is a gold mine...”

You’ve wandered off track from the article’s subject.

Go back to post #21:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3428062/posts?page=21#21

Did you even read the linked article or watch the video at the link? Apparently not.


24 posted on 05/06/2016 1:13:41 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yes, I read it very carefully, and I saw your post 21.

Even though the article alludes to data mining by quoting some guy on the street who “believes” this is why he’s getting lots of ads in the mail, that guy apparently has never realized that the ads are the result of the companies he does business with:

“Lopez’s phone number and address are unlisted. He pays for ad blockers and browser protection software. But, somehow, he says solicitors found him.”

Guess what, buy a car, the dealer has your address. They sell it. Get insurance? Guess what, the company has your address and sells it. Use a credit card or bank account? Guess what... do I have to say?

If you don’t religiously respond to those “How to protect your privacy” things in your contracts and online agreements, your info flies out there.

Does Mr. Lopez do that? No idea because the reporter doesn’t bother asking that obvious one.

The article also mentions one company that has bad security and resold data, however, did not mention the purpose of the resale nor to whom they sold it. Did they resell it for an ad list, or resell it to get some of their money back to like companies? Don’t know that either because...

So even though the article SOUNDS LIKE what you’re describing, if you read it CAREFULLY, you realize it is not. It is merely making an allusion and is unable to substantiate it.

If the article were as it alludes and as you believe, would it not come out and say something specific like “PA sold data to car dealer who passed it onto WalMart”?

Gee, I wonder why it doesn’t?

You fell for it hook line and sinker dude.

Don’t be a sap!

p.s. Your post 21 still misses the point. I agree w/you that it should only be used for “need”, which I am calling “legitimate purpose”. I merely point out that the article has not demonstrated in any real way that the info is going to the “want” crowd.

Hope that makes sense but for some reason I think it won’t.


25 posted on 05/06/2016 1:52:22 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Robert DeLong

The local grocery store called Ralphs here in southern california pays the DMV $5 to get the information about their customers after they write down the license plates.


26 posted on 05/06/2016 2:28:58 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: fruser1

Jeez man, you’ve missed the article’s point, for the nth time, again. It’s not worth pursuing and trying to educate you. The other posters, easily get it. The only SAP here, is you.


27 posted on 05/06/2016 2:31:41 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

Sell it to someone else sister.

You apparently don’t even know what a sap is.


28 posted on 05/06/2016 2:36:15 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: carriage_hill
ty for ping. from article:

...The state has only checked to see how ONE company used driver records since 2010.... Their access to information was immediately taken away based upon the audit,” Myers said....

Nuff said...

29 posted on 05/11/2016 10:28:48 AM PDT by thouworm ("The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." --Orwell)
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