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‘Fundamentally unstable’: Scientists confirm their fears about East Antarctica’s biggest glacier
washingtonpost.com ^ | 5/18/2016 | Chris Mooney

Posted on 05/19/2016 9:00:15 AM PDT by rktman

In the new research, researchers took aircraft-based measurements across the vastness of Totten Glacier, and the extremely deep and thick ice canyons behind it — which scientists call “subglacial basins” — in order to understand a critical yet invisible feature: precisely what the layers of rock beneath the ice are really like.

This, in turn, provides a clue to the behavior of this region in past warm eras. When marine-based glaciers move back and forth across a seascape repeatedly, they grind against the seafloor and dig up piles of looser sediment, such as sandstone, depositing them in a new location. But when glaciers move more quickly, sediment beneath them remains more undisturbed.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antarctica; ecowackos; glacier; mothernature; warmunists
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"This, in turn, provides a clue to the behavior of this region in PAST WARM ERAS." DOH! Uh, what past warm eras? I thought that last month was the warmest month ever in the entire history since the erf was formed. Could the "scientist" be.................LYING? Yes Virginia, I AM a denier.
1 posted on 05/19/2016 9:00:15 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Glaciers, ice and water, move and change.

Amazing so many do not know that.


2 posted on 05/19/2016 9:08:29 AM PDT by lurk (T)
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Should we head to High Ground?

---“This paper presents solid evidence that there has been rapid retreat here in the past, in fact, throughout the history of the ice sheet,” Greenbaum says. “And because of that, we can say it’s likely to happen again in the future, and there will be substantial sea level implications if it happens again.”---

---The current study uses an ice sheet model that the authors admit is conservative, and it takes thousands of years for the most extensive changes to happen — and warming well over the 2 degree threshold that the world has set for itself in international climate negotiations.---

---In a study published two months ago in Nature by Rob DeConto of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst and his colleague David Pollard of Penn State University, the Totten region does retreat under moderate and especially high emissions scenarios, and it does so in the next 500 years.--

NOT!!!

3 posted on 05/19/2016 9:10:57 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: rktman

Who pays attention to fundamentally unstable scientists anyway?


4 posted on 05/19/2016 9:11:01 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: rktman

If you torture yourself enough to read the entire article, it is full of nonsense. They talk about a process that will take thousands of years and which would require massive increases in temperature. Further, the entire premise that they came up with relies upon the ice retreating uphill which the article repeatedly says would be difficult to happen. Then they start discussing other models which might somehow suggest that the process could be quicker than thousands of years, but at that point you are way Through the Looking-Glass.


5 posted on 05/19/2016 9:12:07 AM PDT by Williams (Dear God please save us from the democrats. And the republicans.)
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To: lurk

Why should glaciers be “stable”?

Glaciers are inherently in a state of transition. If they never moved to the sea and broke up, eventually the world would be inundated with glacial ice.


6 posted on 05/19/2016 9:16:15 AM PDT by alloysteel (The Triumph of Trump - finally, does the hegemony of the Republican elites get broken?)
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To: Williams

Think there’s still time for me to build some levees around my house in Reno?


7 posted on 05/19/2016 9:16:19 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Williams

It’s just so silly. This is what I want to see. A model of taking every pound of ice on the earth and at one time drop it in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

Then tell me how much the oceans will rise. I am even giving them ice on land that will not fall into the sea. That’s how confident I am that it would be no more than dropping a swimming pool full of oil in the gulf.


8 posted on 05/19/2016 9:18:55 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (her name is no longer is Hillary. It's Hilarity. Try it on for size, it's fun to say)
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To: rktman

The alarmists should sell their near-sea-level property at a loss and move to higher ground.


9 posted on 05/19/2016 9:20:39 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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They fail to mention that Antartica is adding billions of tons of ice each year, and this glacier is the only major melting point due to unique water temps at this location.


10 posted on 05/19/2016 9:23:47 AM PDT by rstrahan
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Wow. One of the worst arguments for people-caused climate change ever.

Aside from using the threat of global warming against the facts of nature, the article only uses “may, might, could, suggests, most likely, if, believe” to describe the supposed coming catastrophe.

As always, there are no facts to back up any of the claims made but gosh they sure know how to paint a scary scenario. Try telling that to a true believer.


11 posted on 05/19/2016 9:28:17 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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Holy crap! How do they come up with this stuff? Any glacier that exists outside of a static sub freezing environment is ‘fundamentally unstable’. Because, on Earth, climate changes! Everyday!

Eggheads.


12 posted on 05/19/2016 9:29:32 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
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Think there’s still time for me to build some levees around my house in Reno?

I don't think so. A levee might upset the delicate balance of nature. So environment impact studies will have to be done. Then you'll need EPA approval at both the regional and the national level. A UN agency might even get involved. We're talking decades of paperwork processing.

You're out of luck, pal.

13 posted on 05/19/2016 9:33:35 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: rktman

Title says it all. Fundamentally Unstable Scientists!


14 posted on 05/19/2016 10:22:07 AM PDT by Rodm
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To: rktman

Tennessee Ocean Front property for sale!!!


15 posted on 05/19/2016 10:48:46 AM PDT by DannyTN
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A levee might upset the delicate balance of nature. So environment impact studies will have to be done. Then you'll need EPA approval at both the regional and the national level. A UN agency might even get involved. We're talking decades of paperwork processing.

Shovel, stack and shut up!

16 posted on 05/19/2016 11:34:23 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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Run the world into globalism by crisis ... Rahm Emmanuel spilled the beans on these evil bastards, who have eager ‘science minions’ to carry the lies to the populace.


17 posted on 05/19/2016 11:37:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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From www.antarctica.gov.au

The average annual temperature ranges from about −10°C (+14°F) on the Antarctic coast to −60°C (-76°F) at the highest parts of the interior.

Near the coast the temperature can exceed +10°C (+50°F) at times in summer and fall to below −40°C (Also -40°F) in winter.

Over the elevated inland, it can rise to about −30°C in summer but fall below −80°C in winter.

The lowest temperature yet recorded on the Earth's surface was −89.2°C (-128.56°F) at Vostok station on 21 July 1983.

Not a lot of melting going on there. Unless there's an undersea volcano, of course. Which has nothing to do with man-made climate change.

18 posted on 05/19/2016 2:10:54 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Sanders - Make America Venezuela. Clinton - Make America My Piggy Bank. Trump - Make America Great.)
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“Unless there’s an undersea volcano, of course.” And we all know from algores proclamations that the ‘magma’ is millions of degrees. Right under our feet.


19 posted on 05/19/2016 2:25:35 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To obtain absolute sea-level measurements from relative measurements or proxies, scientists have to correct for many variables—vertical changes in both land and ocean basin levels, ocean salinity changes, overland glacial decreases and increases, on-shore-off-shore prolonged winds, and gravitational interactions between the earth and lunar orbits.


20 posted on 05/19/2016 6:19:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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