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Omar Mateen, the Homosexual Asian Democrat Muslim was cleared by the FBI!
1 posted on 06/15/2016 12:48:16 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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2 posted on 06/15/2016 12:48:34 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper ((Just say no to HRC))
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I don’t recall DT definitively saying he wants a ban for those on No Fly list. My impression of the meeting is he’s getting info. Maybe he used that wording to troll the media like he always does...


3 posted on 06/15/2016 12:49:43 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012 (q15.)
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And that’s my problem with the NRA. Most of the gun control laws on the books were passed with their blessing.


6 posted on 06/15/2016 12:52:14 PM PDT by GMMC0987
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What? Omar Mateen was on none of those lists. Omar Mateen was full on sharia. How about banning Sharia?


7 posted on 06/15/2016 12:52:43 PM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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Be a lot better to just ban the muslims from America.They’re totally incompatible with the Constitution.


8 posted on 06/15/2016 12:56:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/06/no_author/confirmed-fbi-introduced-florida-shooter-informants/

Shades of Elohim City, and OKC.

Paging Professor Raoul X.


9 posted on 06/15/2016 12:56:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Every American, except the Muslims, are on their stupid “watch list.”

Throw those GOP bums out and put in non-politically correct lovers of freedom and America.


10 posted on 06/15/2016 12:56:35 PM PDT by Jim W N
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Get ‘em while you can.

We do not know how one gets on the watch list, nor do we know if it is possible to get off the watch list, nor do we now who is on the watch list.

With this administration, it’s probably people who show too much reverence for the Constitution, patriotism for America and other things they find abhorent.


13 posted on 06/15/2016 12:59:50 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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So you are an NRA member eh? We are watching you.


16 posted on 06/15/2016 1:03:41 PM PDT by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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Apparently, mere suspicion is sufficient to deny citizens their civil and due process rights—Am I right, Mr. Trump?


17 posted on 06/15/2016 1:03:52 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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"...Restricting gun buys for those on watchlist..."


This would essentially become a registration and confiscation technique.

They gather all the Form 4473 and view all who have purchased an AR-15 or similar firearm in the past forty years.
Place all those people onto a "watchlist" so they lose the ability to fly and are further stigmatized by being on a "watchlist" for having done nothing except exercise American freedoms.

Now they just kick-back and relax while decent law-abiding Americans have to explain to their families and employers why they cannot fly.
Employers will start terminating personnel who can no longer fly to see clients or attend internal meetings.

Husbands, wives, boyfriends, and girlfriends will begin quarreling due to being unable to fly due to "your dumb guns complicating our lives" and similar.
Generous financial awards will be offered to people who identify family, friends, coworkers, and neighbors who might otherwise possess guns not on the master list.

If there is anything Big Government enjoys, it is manufactured chaos pitting Americans against each other so they can put their jackboots on everyone's neck.


19 posted on 06/15/2016 1:06:01 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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1. Who decides to put someone on the watch list?

2. What standard of proof is required?

3. How does the individual get notified?

4. How does he appeal the determination?

5. Who pays for his legal representation?

In reality, the “watch list” needs to be run through the court system, with all its checks and limitations on governmental power. AND that includes the right to counsel.

The same must apply to any “mental illness” determination.

1. Who decides what is “mental illness?”

2. What standard of proof is required?

Etc.

I think this latter one is even more dangerous than the watch list. A Leftist shrink could decide that all conservatives are mentally ill, or that wanting to own a gun or being a Christian is sufficient evidence of mental illness. I trust them all about as far as I can throw them.


20 posted on 06/15/2016 1:06:30 PM PDT by afsnco
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GOP passes this THEY LOSE house and senate BANK ON IT!!!!!


21 posted on 06/15/2016 1:08:19 PM PDT by Kit cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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He said those on a watch list who try to buy a gun "should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing."

Chris, you ignorant slut ...

What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand? What part of "shall not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law" do you not understand?

22 posted on 06/15/2016 1:08:27 PM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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This is a crazy idea, ripe for abuse.

But, if they do it, there better be a great deal of transparency, safeguards and an appeal process that forces the government into a Federal Court.

And it would STILL be Unconstitutional.

23 posted on 06/15/2016 1:09:13 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Let’s Insert More Government Incompetence! bump for later...


33 posted on 06/15/2016 1:20:52 PM PDT by indthkr
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Oh now they want to disarm us after Obama let almost 1,000,000 radical Islam Muslims into our country? The enemy is already here ... He’s crazy if he things Americans are going to fork over their guns at the drop of a hat....or anytime soon!! Hell no!!!! come and take it!!!!


36 posted on 06/15/2016 1:24:49 PM PDT by RoseofTexas (T)
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The tail is wagging the dog


39 posted on 06/15/2016 1:26:49 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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watch lists are fundamentally in Contradiction to the constitution.

Imagine you not being able to buy a pen or cell phone, or publish an article, because you are on a watch list.

the same thing will happen to watch lists that happened to DHS. They will be co-opted by so-called liberals to restrict further the rights of ordinary American citizens, while traitors, illegal aliens, and people of certain protected so-called faiths skate.

I hope that Republicans in Congress realize this and don’t throw away freedoms for temporary feelings of security. And what happens when the next jihadist terrorism occurs? Yet more ratcheting of freedoms?

Restricting our existing freedoms is equivalent to blaming ourselves. The blame here is in the White House and a Congress that has failed to curb excessive immigration of people who continually demonstrate their refusal to assimilate by terrorist atrocities.


46 posted on 06/15/2016 1:43:28 PM PDT by SteveH
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https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160615/nra-statement-on-terror-watchlists


48 posted on 06/15/2016 2:05:21 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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