Posted on 06/19/2016 12:07:28 PM PDT by Kaslin
In a shocking development in the push for gun-control, Senator Chris Murphy, who filibustered for 15 hours regarding the issue, admitted Sunday on ABC’s This Week that his proposal would not have stopped any recent mass shooting. “Your proposal would have done nothing in the case of Orlando, it would have done nothing to stop the killing in San Bernardino,” stated ABC’s Jon Karl calling out Murphy, “And in fact, it was unrelated to the killing in Newtown.”
The proposal Murphy has been pushing is one that is meant to close the mythical “gun show loophole.” “Would that have done anything to stop the massacre in Orlando,” Karl asked Murphy. The Senator tried to explain that his proposal had to work in conjunction with other proposals to be effective.
Karl again called out Murphy by pointing to the fact that terrorist Omar Mateen didn’t purchase his firearms at a gun show and passed a background check anyway. “So why -- why are we focusing on things that have nothing to do with the massacres we're responding to,” Karl grilled Murphy.
ABC Gets Senator Murphy to Admit Gun Control Proposal Would Not Work
Murphy’s only response was to argue that it was a “trap” to judge a proposal based on how effective it would have been in stopping the last tragedy:
So first of all, we can't get into that trap. I disagree, I think if this proposal had been into effect it may have stopped the shooting. But we can’t get into the trap in which we are forced to defend our proposal simply because it didn’t stop the last tragedy.
But Karl’s inquiry still stands, why propose a solution to a “problem” that had nothing to do with the tragedy you are trying to stop? Could it be all about the agenda and not the people affected?
Transcript below:
ABC
This Week
June 19, 2016
9:25:31 AM Eastern
JON KARL: That's Connecticut senator Chris Murphy. He spent 15 straight hours on the Senate floor this week demanding that Republicans hold votes on gun control measures and Senator Murphy joins us here right now. So, Senator Murphy, you are getting those votes on Monday. Tomorrow. But are you going to have to look those families in the eye once again and tell them that you have failed? Because those bills are not going to pass. None of them.
CHRIS MURPHY: Well, we're going to work hard, over the weekend, on the bill that stops people on the terrorist watch list to from getting guns. I admit the background checks bill will be tough to get 60 votes on. But, we have hope we can get Republicans to support the bill stopping terrorists from getting weapons.
But listen, I think something important happened last week. It wasn’t just 40 Senators came to the floor and supported my effort to get these votes. There were millions of people all across the country who rose up and who joined our effort. And what we know is, ultimately, the only way to win the issue is by building a political infrastructure around the country that rivals that of the gun lobby. And so, I'm still hopeful we’re going to be able to get votes. I know there are also some compromise negotiations happening that may bear fruit. But, in the final analysis what many be most important is that our filibuster helped galvanize an entire country around this issue.
KARL: But you're specifically pushing a bill and have been pushing the bill, and it will be voted on on Monday, to close the so-called "gun show loophole." Would that have done anything to stop the massacre in Orlando?
MURPHY: So, it may have in the sense that if you partner with a bill that stops terrorists from getting guns.—
KARL: But wait a minute. He didn't buy those guns at a gun show. And he would have passed the background check. He did pass a background check.
MURPHY: He did pass a background check. But, if the Feinstein bill was in effect, the FBI could have put him on the list of those prohibited from getting guns. What if he went into the gun store and got denied, he could have gone online, or to a gun show, and bought another weapon.
KARL: Okay, but what I’m trying to get at is, we hear every time there’s one of these terrible tragedies there are proposals. Your proposal would have done nothing in the case of Orlando, it would have done nothing to stop the killing in San Bernardino. And in fact, it was unrelated to the killing in Newtown. So why -- why are we focusing on things that have nothing to do with the massacres we're responding to?
MURPHY: So first of all, we can't get into that trap. I disagree, I think if this proposal had been into effect it may have stopped the shooting. But we can’t get into the trap in which we are forced to defend our proposal simply because it didn’t stop the last tragedy. We should be making our gun laws less full of Swiss cheese holes, so that future killings don’t happen. That trap in an impossible one. The Sandy Hook families lobby for background checks. You know why? Because they are just as concerned with the young men and women who are dying in our cities because of the flow of illegal guns, as they are about a ban of assault weapons, or high magazines clips that might have prevented the Newtown killings. So, this has to be broader that just responding to the tragedy that happened three days ago.
KARL: But, why can't Congress pass things there is obvious agreement on. For instance, the question of the terrorist watch list. There is opposition to banning gun sales for people on that list. People have constitutional concerns. But why can't you simply pass a provision that says that, “anybody who’s on a terrorist watch list or has been on a terrorist watch list for the last five years, tries to buy a gun, the FBI is automatically notified?” I mean at, at least they can follow the person, track the person. Why can't Congress at least do that?
MURPHY: Well first of all, does the FBI have the resources, I mean that’s a question, to take those notifications, especially if the individual walks out of the store with the gun, and stop the killing before it happens? It would be much more effective to make sure the individual get the gun, rather than to make the FBI go find him after he gets it.
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Yeah, that will never be covered by the MSM.
So, instead of giving Law Enforcement the “resources” they need to stop Murderers, it’s easier to deny Law Abiding American Citizens their God Given Constitutional Rights.
Got it.
no due process simply on the watch list, put there by some bureaucratic imbecile.
Amazingly good questioning, I’m stunned.
Universal background checks are code for all firearms transfers must be reported to the government so they know where to go to confiscate them.
AWESOME POINT! This is exactly what should happen! But in the PC day-and-age we live in, nothing will happen anyway because - profiling! Just like where the store that Omar-the-Gay tried to buy the flak vest turned that info into the FBI and they did nothing...
No, but yeah, and, uh, it's the idea that's the important thing, and the need to do *something*. /s Thanks Kaslin.
Disarming the American people in preparation for the collapse of America is the plan. Yeah, it will work.
And here is President Narcissus bloviating on Saturday about so-called “Homegrown terrorism!”
TRUMP HAS to bring focus on Obama’s SLICK use of words to blame American “homegrown terrorism” for what truly is ISLAMIC CULTURE!! Mateen may have been a 1st Generation Afganistani American, but killing a bunch of American gays in the name of ALLAH is not homegrown terrorism. It was “grown” in the middle-east. Obama is such a clever LIAR!
OBAMAO: -—“Being tough on terrorism — particularly the sorts of homegrown terrorism that we’ve seen now in Orlando and San Bernardino — means making it harder for people who want to kill Americans to get their hands on assault weapons that are capable of killing dozens of innocents as quickly as possible,” Obama said in his weekly radio address. “That’s something I’ll continue to talk about in the weeks ahead.”
It’s the old “never let a crisis go to waste trick” again! I am surprised Karl called him out, but kudos for doing so!
Those who espouse dopey ideas for infringing constitutional rights should be able to avoid logic traps. You do so by using reason and facts and logic.
If you cannot avoid being unreasonable, bereft of facts, and illogical then yes, you are trapped and barred from any of your infringing.
My proposal is even better. Go ahead make my day
Yes, but but but it SOUNDS so good and that’s all a Democrat needs - sounding good is always easier.
This is what journalism looks like in that alternate universe where many of us wished we lived.
AWESOME POINT! This is exactly what should happen! But in the PC day-and-age we live in, nothing will happen anyway because - profiling! Just like where the store that Omar-the-Gay tried to buy the flak vest turned that info into the FBI and they did nothing...
Why this is a bad idea without due process?
Are you anti LGBT? The SPLC classifies you as a hate group.
Are you anti-immigrant? The SPLC classifies you as a hate group.
Are you anti-Muslim? The SPLC classifies you as a hate group.
Who do you think the obamites lean heavily upon to identify terrorists?
It is NEVER ABOUT GUNS. It’s about CONTROL!
When will our representatives ever learn that they represent us not rule us? Perhaps that’s a rhetorical question.
If the But, if the Feinstein bill becomes law Hillary is not deemed safe enough to own agun.
The DNC's Presidential candidate is not deemed safe enough to own a gun!
The FBI is already notified if someone on the watch list attempts to buy a gun.
It is obvious what Senator Murphy is saying. He is saying, in essence:
We cannot get full scale confiscation all at once. We need to do this in little bites, so that by the time everything comes together, people will not have reallized they destroyed the Second Amendmenat by a lot of little infringements that all work together to interlock and and become a cohesive whole.
Senator Murphy is reluctant to say it, because the disarmists know that it confirms the “slippery slope” approach that Second Amendment supporters have been warning about for decades.
Well the RAT failed to say “We have to start somewhere”....
When the mob gets control of the gun industry - - killers will have the same 'waiting period' and background checks' required that street addicts have for getting illegal drugs
NONE.
NO WAITING PERIOD. NO BACKGROUND CHECKS. NADA. ZIP. ZERO. Organized crime doesn't give a damn about 'waiting periods'...
The mob will have a new multi-billion dollar industry under their control - the gun industry - as law biding citizens devolve to defenseless targets
Senator Murphy's a useful idiot.
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