>The research has been done and is compelling.
Call to authority fallacy
> Vaccines save lives.
Generalization fallacy.
> other people, especially babies, are at risk from those who are not vaccinated
Unfounded inference.
This is why there are a great many skeptics, because of pro-vax arguments like this. You have zero interest in the concerns of skeptics, and are trying to beat them over the head with fallacies, so naturally you’re going to get blowback and even more skepticism in the wake of such tactics.
These are not fallacies just because you believe they are. Look at the facts and see for yourself. All the nonsense peddled by anti-vax people are demonstrably false. Check out the links in the story and you will see that all of their notions have been proven to be bogus, but no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary, anti-vax devotees refuse to face the facts.
Real bright. Maybe you can explain why polio and most diseases we all had in the old days went away?
And why they all came back when the nutty anti-vaxers started their luddite jihad?
“This is why there are a great many skeptics, because of pro-vax arguments like this.”
At some point one gets tired of explaining hundreds of years of science to Luddites, and the most generous thing one can say is...well, something ungenerous and rude.
Anti vax is the modern jihad. Moms work and don’t attend to their family. So they look for poisons everywhere to show how “involved” they are. Alar apples, the autism scam, vaccinations, Michelle Obama lunches.
All part of the same superstitious stupidity.
It aggravates me how much people trust the vaccine big pharmacy establishment (who also are cronies with the CDC and other government health orgs) , because, hey they are scientists.....
a few years ago I got a tetanus booster that made me sick for damned near a month and confirmed it with the my doctor that IS WAS AN ADVERSE REACTION to the VACCINE.
And then they were giving me the tetanus vaccine they wanted to jab me with ANOTHER VACCINE, but I told them I didn’t know for sure if I had that shot or not and I declined. I am damned glad i declined, imagine if I had 2x bad reactions to vaccines at once!!!!
IT COULD HAVE DAMNED NEAR KILLED ME...
You reject science with mis-applications of “fallacies.”
Gotcha.
I just love the way you dismiss valid arguments as one of the major forms of fallacy, without apparently understanding what the fallacies actually are.
Referring to the large body of research, for example, is not a “call to authority” fallacy. The only “authority” involved is the law of nature, since the research had to take place within a natural system and its results arise from natural laws.
A “call to authority” fallacy occurs when someone who may be an expert on something is quoted as an expert in a completely different subject about which he knows little or nothing—for example, when Barbara Loe Fisher, who has a BA in English, is used as an expert source on vaccine issues, despite the fact that she knows utterly nothing about the science of vaccines.
I can go through the rest of your misuse of the concept of fallacies, but it is a waste of time. I have found that anti-vaxxers typically are not interested in science or children’s health—they are all about the conspiracy mongering. I see no reason to believe that you are any different.
Somehow, I get the feeling that if God Almighty himself came down from Heaven and discussed things like herd immunity and dangers of non-vaccination with you, you would renounce Christianity.
Meh.