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1 posted on 07/16/2016 4:09:10 AM PDT by Biggirl
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Not completely calm yet. This morning:

11:44AM
Frigate ‘seized’ by anti-government forces

A Turkish group opposed to the government has taken over a frigate at Turkey’s Golcuk naval base and the head of the Turkish fleet is being held hostage, a senior Greek military source told Reuters.


2 posted on 07/16/2016 4:17:34 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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I think Klein is way off base with this analysis. Erdogan will use the failed coup to purge the military and any political opposition. Many will be killed and disappeared and Erdogan will rush to make Turkey a theocratic Islamist state and eliminate remaining Western influences.


3 posted on 07/16/2016 4:22:57 AM PDT by Truth29
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The basic mistake: not killing Erdogan first, so the snake would have been headless.


6 posted on 07/16/2016 4:31:58 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Here's a link to the John Batchelor Show with guest Gregory Copley, Defense & Foreign Affairs. Mr. Copley explains things the best IMO -- including years ago what I remember that the EU threatened Turkey with rejections if the military did not stop "interfering" -- I believe the military's duty has always been to "interfere" to save the Republic and the Constitution from the likes of Islamists like Erdogan.

Also described is how the military would dismantle Erdogan's support of radical Islamists around the Globe. Much more. This could even go a long way to settling the Syrian conflicts.

IMO this describes exactly why Obama supports Erdogan over the military trying to do its duty to restore secular government.

audio

7 posted on 07/16/2016 4:33:58 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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No, far from shattered, Erdogan will be able to slaughter the opposition and extend his ruthless control. 14 years in power and now he has the pretext to assert greater control.


11 posted on 07/16/2016 4:47:51 AM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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I think this might be a hopeful analysis and not an accurate one, at least for a few years.

Dictators generally grip more tightly on power after such attempts.

This guy could become like Saddam Hussein—surrounded by a loyal cadre and protected for many years by a slaughtering of enemies—real and merely perceived.

All while Valerie’s man child applauds.


15 posted on 07/16/2016 4:57:03 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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12:56PM
Thousands of judges purged

The Turkish government has embarked on a purge of the judiciary following the botched coup, state TV reports, in the first sign of how last night could increase Erdogan’s authoritarian rule.

NTV said 2,745 judges had been removed from duty, following a decision of the High Council of Judges.

Five members of the High Judiciary Court Board were also removed


17 posted on 07/16/2016 4:58:38 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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Turkey on its way to becoming another Caliphate. Obama will assist. Dangerous times lie ahead.


18 posted on 07/16/2016 5:03:48 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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Just like the attempted coup in Venezuela against Chavez, right?


21 posted on 07/16/2016 5:09:35 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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Why didn’t someone just empty a 30-round magazine into Erdogan’s face?


27 posted on 07/16/2016 5:27:14 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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Yep. Xerxes bleeds. And a vital part of the real axis of evil just showed cracks.


30 posted on 07/16/2016 5:33:05 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are at that point, where we stand with Leonidas, or slither with Ephialtes.)
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I don’t see how Erdogan is weakened, since he will now have an excuse to purge the military of dissident elements. The military must have known about something awful to make them think a coup attempt was warranted. Is Erdogan going to go full Islamic now? Is he going to try to establish a new caliphate to supplant ISIS? He will have an easier task now.


33 posted on 07/16/2016 5:37:41 AM PDT by Genoa
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The U.S. C.I.A. fails miserably once again!!! Blindsided as usual.


34 posted on 07/16/2016 5:46:16 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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John Effing Kerry’s handiwork, you suppose?

After all, he does need something to buttress his resume, after all, his predecessor was responsible for how many countries being thrown into crisis?

Gotta have some resume enhancements, dontcha know?


36 posted on 07/16/2016 5:46:55 AM PDT by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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I know Turns. This was a put job by the black dog Erdogan and his Islamist fellow travelers.


43 posted on 07/16/2016 6:16:48 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen and you, O death, are annihilated!)
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To: Biggirl; Jim Noble; gaijin; SunkenCiv; nuconvert
Turkey: The sick man of Europe, once again — Spengler
by David P. Goldman

First, Turkey’s much-heralded economic growth spurt of the 2000’s has come to a grinding stop.

Secondly, Turkey’s internal cohesion is at risk due to the rapid increase of its Kurdish-speaking minority and the relative decline of the ethnic Turkish population.

To prevent the Syrian Kurds from controlling the northern border of their country and linking up with their Iraqi compatriots, Erdogan covertly supported Sunni terrorists, including ISIS, as Michael Rubin explained last March in Newsweek. Erdogan’s back channel to ISIS blew up in Turkey’s face–literally–when ISIS suicide bombers killed 42 people and injured hundreds at the Istanbul Airport June 29.

Since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after World War I and the foundation of the modern state, Turkey’s army acted as the guarantor of the country’s secular state.

http://atimes.com/2016/07/the-sick-man-of-europe-once-again/

This is not the last round.

44 posted on 07/16/2016 6:17:29 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Fox is reporting now that eight generals have fled to Greece seeking asylum and Erdogan is demanding their return....


50 posted on 07/16/2016 7:07:18 AM PDT by Genoa
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From last night.


60 posted on 07/16/2016 7:38:50 AM PDT by McGruff (How about investigating the donations to the Clinton Foundation)
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Turkey is a lost and totally screwed up place. It will become as deadly to the world as ISIS. Another Iran in the making. What is the matter with these fools.
64 posted on 07/16/2016 8:07:50 AM PDT by Logical me
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