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Poll: Clinton Keeps 5-Point Lead Over Trump Heading Into Conventions
NBC ^ | July 17, 2016 | Mark Murray

Posted on 07/17/2016 7:23:57 AM PDT by Pinkbell

On the eve of the GOP convention, Hillary Clinton maintains a five-point national lead over Donald Trump even after a period of negative news for the presumptive Democratic nominee, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Clinton leads the presumptive GOP nominee 46 percent to 41 percent in a poll that finds both candidates facing sizable disadvantages and challenges ahead of the party conventions which kick off Monday for the GOP in Cleveland and a week later for Democrats in Philadelphia.

Those numbers are unchanged from one month ago with the poll conducted after FBI Director James Comey strongly rebuked Clinton over her email practices even though he determined that she had not committed a crime. The poll was also conducted before Trump selected Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his vice-presidential running mate.

Clinton has the advantage among African Americans (84 to 7 percent), voters ages 18-29 (55 to 32 percent) and women (52 to 37 percent). The margin among Latinos will be released later on Sunday.

Trump, meanwhile, is ahead among whites (50 to 37 percent) and men (46 to 39 percent), and the two candidates are tied among independents (36 percent each).

In a four-way ballot test - including Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson and the Green Party's Jill Stein - Clinton gets 41 percent, Trump 35 percent, Johnson 11 percent, and Stein 6 percent.

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Trump heads into the Republican convention with a 27 percent positive/60 percent negative score (-33) - remaining the most unpopular presumptive presidential nominee in the history of the NBC/WSJ poll.

But he's followed closely by Clinton's 34 percent positive/56 percent negative score (-22).

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...Only 38 percent of GOP voters in the poll are satisfied with Trump as their nominee, versus 54 percent of Democrats who are satisfied with Clinton.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


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Poll numbers all over the place. This poll has a 5 point Clinton lead. Someone posted Reuters who gives Hillary a 12 point lead. There are others like Rasmussen, La Times, and Quinnipiac which show Trump winning.

If we are to take this poll on its face, a few things to note.

1) Hillary's approval rating in her party is higher than Trump's in his as 78 percent of Republicans say party isn't united with comparison to 40% Democrats. That proves a point I have made that when push comes to shove, the Democrats will circle the wagons behind their nominee. This is despite the fact some may not like her, despite the fact that she compromised national security with her emails, and despite her foreign policy disasters as Secretary of State. The voters who don't like her even know they would rather get 70% of what they want as opposed to nothing at all. Our people are often purists. They want 100% or "muh principles".

2) The GOP approval rating is 27% vs 39% for Democrats. That is probably a mix of #NeverTrump folks and others who support Trump and are angry at GOP.

3) 55% of voters say that email issue is important, and 50% say she doesn't have right judgement. However, more voters (37% to 25% with 33% saying neither) say she has better judgement than Trump. Baffling.

4) 56% of people want big change, but yet Hillary is winning?

5) Obama has a high approval rating right now at 51% with 49% believing the economy has improved. I have said Obama's high approval rating could be a problem because she is literally his female third term. If they like what they are getting, they will stick to it.

1 posted on 07/17/2016 7:23:57 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell
NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

That says it all

2 posted on 07/17/2016 7:26:02 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: Pinkbell

Poll data could be totally made-up just like the global warming data was, how would anyone know it was faked?


3 posted on 07/17/2016 7:26:20 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: Don Corleone

This poll was consistently the most anti Trump and the most inaccurate poll during the primaries.

Wipe your morning deuce with it.


4 posted on 07/17/2016 7:28:57 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Don Corleone

I have speculated that Hillary would top out around 46% and then Trump would continue to rise.


5 posted on 07/17/2016 7:29:02 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: bigbob

Polling data is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. Don’t count the chickens until the eggs hatch.


6 posted on 07/17/2016 7:29:35 AM PDT by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: bigbob
How can there be so many anti-Trumps with the huge turnout in the primaries.

I believe the Hillary vote in the primaries was down from projections.

7 posted on 07/17/2016 7:29:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Pinkbell

That’s why I expect Cankles to win - if the economy is on the mend and the incumbent’s approval ratings are high, people prefer to stick with what they know.

If both of those things go south by November, Trump should prevail. We’ll have four months to find out which path the country will take.


8 posted on 07/17/2016 7:31:41 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: goldstategop

You would think the national security situation would have some impact, though, wouldn’t you? How can voters approve of Obama’s handling of that?


9 posted on 07/17/2016 7:33:41 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Liberal tolerance only extends to people they agree with.)
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To: Sacajaweau

This is the general election - and there are more D’s than R’s in the electorate.

Its a fact of life.

Trump has his work cut out for him if he wants to win in November.


10 posted on 07/17/2016 7:33:59 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Pinkbell

NBC = Nothing But Crap ?


11 posted on 07/17/2016 7:34:20 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Pinkbell

Democrats sure do love their crooked politicians.


12 posted on 07/17/2016 7:35:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Don Corleone

I thought it was a 105 point lead. No doubt Trump is not gonna make it so he might as well drop out by this afternoon and not waste any time in Cleveland. Right? /s


13 posted on 07/17/2016 7:35:44 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: patro

Yep. And yet half the posts on FR for the next few months will be vehement arguments over this poll or that...


14 posted on 07/17/2016 7:36:03 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: Pinkbell

Pocketbook issues affect voter behavior.

If people are happy with the way things are, the incumbent benefits.

When they don’t, the challenger comes out ahead.

That’s why Hillary is heavily favored because she is running as the incumbent.


15 posted on 07/17/2016 7:36:16 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Pinkbell

NBC poll. They’ll NEVER show Trump with a lead. Never.


16 posted on 07/17/2016 7:37:18 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Make Our Founding Documents Great Again!)
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To: butlerweave

The poll was created by a PR firm, not a professional polling firm.


17 posted on 07/17/2016 7:37:27 AM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Pinkbell

Polling is a propagandist’s tool. It functions as propaganda in and of itself, convincing people that everyone thinks a certain thing, and that they are on the right or wrong side of popular wisdom. It provides feedback to the propagandist so he knows if his work is effective, and how to refocus his work. And it provides cover to the guy planning to stuff the ballot boxes. If the poll says you lost, and sure enough you lost, you might not look too closely at the fact that there were more votes than voters in your district.


18 posted on 07/17/2016 7:37:58 AM PDT by marron
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To: Pinkbell
Your thoughts are logical, but I wouldn't over-interpret any of the polls at this point. The verifiable facts include: 1. Trump beat every establishment candidate, in a primary season in which there were millions more Republican voters than ever before. 2. Hillary has suffered from loss of credibility on the basis of her email scandal and other scandals, and her ‘likability’ is a problem for her. 3. Enthusiasm is a huge factor in winning elections, and by virtue of the primary numbers and crowd turnouts Trump appears to have a significant edge here. 4. The terrorism issue is an important one, and on this Hillary suffers from being aligned with Obama.

It will be a fight, and we are in good shape.

19 posted on 07/17/2016 7:38:24 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Pinkbell

Is there a list of Democrat delegates who are either felons or who are facing legal trouble? Seems there is a bunch.


20 posted on 07/17/2016 7:39:37 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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