[snarkpup]

I normally use FireFox, with several security extensions, and with "shields" generally set to maximum. I also like to have a second browser (in its own "sandbox") with less shielding so that I can log on to websites like my bank and a few trusted e-commerce sites that would otherwise require extensive whitelisting.

I have been using Opera as the second browser. I have heard that the sale to China was coming; but it now sounds like it's immanent. I have therefore uninstalled Opera.

I have replaced it with Pale Moon. It takes most of the same security extensions as FireFox (NoScript, uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger). I've been using it for about a half-hour now and it seems OK.

I thought of installing Chrome; but I have qualms about using a browser associated with a company whose business model is based on harvesting people's personal information and selling it.

Comments (particularly from anyone with more experience with Pale Moon)?

[Buckeye McFrog]

I thought of installing Chrome; but I have qualms about using a browser associated with a company whose business model is based on harvesting people's personal information and selling it.

But no qualms about using Firefox, a company that fired its CEO for making a private contribution to a political group that opposes gay marriage?

[ptsal]

bttt

[butlerweave]

China will fill it with every nasty known to China

[Blennos]

I have been using Opera as the second browser. I have heard that the sale to China was coming; but it now sounds like it's immanent. I have therefore uninstalled Opera. I have replaced it with Pale Moon. It takes most of the same security extensions as FireFox (NoScript, uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger). I've been using it for about a half-hour now and it seems OK.

I have been using Pale Moon for years. It's a solid browser. It diverged from FireFox a few years ago. It has all of Firefox's best features but leaves out some of the trendy missteps. It is actively maintained by a dedicated programmer. I can recommend it highly. ((By the way the word you want here is "imminent"))

[Little Pig]

So just to clarify, Opera has sold their *Chromium-based* Opera browser. Not the actual Chromium project itself.

[LaRueLaDue]

Opera hasn’t been the same (i.e. fast, good, etc.) since version 12. They essentially “sold out” and re-packaged Chrome after this. I stopped using it, as it became too slow and bloated; which was too bad since I have used it since version 3, on both windows and unix platforms.

The original developers quit and started up their own company to create a more modern browser that was based on the older Opera. It is called Vivaldi and I think it is now available for download. I cannot say how good it is, as it is Windows only, and I have now totally moved off Windows...

[Batman11]

PFL

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Chromium is a virus. I had to go through my registry and search for and delete every line with the word “Chromium” in it to get rid of it.

[Flying Circus]

Brendan Eich, the guy forced out as CEO of Mozilla for his contribution to the pro-marriage amendment in California has started a new browser, Brave, you may want to try.

I just put it into my home computer and so far so good, though still a little light on features.
https://www.brave.com/

[catbertz]

I use Pale Moon on desktop as well. No problems and all the features that I want, without the politics.

On Android I’ve been using Opera for years. I very much prefer it to other mobile browsers. I really dislike the other mobile browsers, especially Chrome. I just don’t get all the love for mobile chrome. I will be watching this sale carefully.