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GAO Report: The ATF Is Illegally Hoarding American Gun Owners’ Personal Information
The Daily Caller ^ | 08/02/2016 | Eric Lieberman

Posted on 08/02/2016 2:14:45 PM PDT by ManHunter

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35 Let’s see if the NRA, GOA, etc. earn their pay. For the ones that don’t join to file suit....”No soup for you!”

1998 - FBI launches the NICS. The FFL dealer contacts the NICS by telephone or Internet. When the background check is initiated 3 databases are accessed: (1) the National Crime Information Center (NCIC), (2) the Interstate Identification Index (III), and (3) the NICS Index. According to the FBI, checks are usually determined within minutes of initiation. If there is no match in any of the checked databases, the dealer is cleared to proceed with the transfer. Otherwise, the FBI's NCIS Section must contact the appropriate judicial and/or law enforcement agencies for more information. Per the Brady Act, the FBI has 3 business days to make its decision to approve or deny the transfer. If the FFL has not received the decision within that time it may legally proceed anyway.

The FBI originally wanted the NICS inquiry requests by FFL dealers (essentially AFT Form 4473) for prospective firearm buyers be allowed to be kept on record for 18 months. The GOA backed them (i.e., AG Janet Reno)down to 6 months retention back in 2000.

41 posted on 08/02/2016 5:58:57 PM PDT by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: ManHunter

No records that reach the government’s hands are ever destroyed. Try to get a misdemeanor expunged. You will get assured, even certified that it is expunged but ten years later when you apply for a new job it turns up on the background check.


42 posted on 08/02/2016 6:17:24 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: ManHunter

....And one day closer to a second civil war or revolution.


43 posted on 08/02/2016 6:29:04 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: MacNaughton

1998?????

I’m talking about what they’ll do TODAY beside fundraise.......


44 posted on 08/02/2016 6:44:52 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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The minutemen were NOT organized militia, but rather unorganized militia with NO govt. backing....They resisted govt. interference in their affairs.

Today an organized militia would be the National Guard essentially a state’s own army separate from the US Army.

Occasionally you see, mostly democrat, politicians referring to our military veterans as “domestic terrorists.” The Dems always tell us who they fear. It is these militia, unorganized but with prior training and military skills, that they fear.

The proponents of Tyranny i.e. Democrats, know that these veterans are the modern day “minutemen.” Unorganized as of yet, but a danger to leftist goals at a moments notice with the right spark. I think a severe restriction on the 2nd Amendment like the Dems are trying to do in California right now could provide such a spark.

Just to keep you up to date the Calif. Laws just signed by Gov. Brown are getting huge pushback by the various Sheriffs in the state, most of whom are openly advocating non compliance in their counties.....

What happens in California re these laws over the next couple of years will be pivotal one way or the other. It would behoove the remainder of the US to pay close attention. It is the NRA/GOA that need to lead the way or they’ll prove their uselessness.

Reagan famously said “Trust, but verify.”

I trust no one!


45 posted on 08/02/2016 7:32:03 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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We'll agree to disagree about the nature of the Minutemen.

We are in agreement that military vets are the ones most feared by the Democrats. The Dems have had 7 years to indoctrinate our young troops about the evils of white privilege and Christianity while praising the virtues of homosexuality/transgenderism, diversity, and Islam. Today's young veterans are a far smaller % of the population than the WWII vets in Athens, TN, during 1946.

Appreciate the update about CA sheriffs' pushing back against Gov. Moonbeam's latest laws against the 2A. Yes, CA, CT, IL, MA, NY, and WA are the tripwire states where the Democratic state governments pose the biggest threats to the 2A.

Matthew 24:3-14, 36-44 (NIV, 2011)
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” 4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. 9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. ... 36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. 42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

46 posted on 08/02/2016 10:40:17 PM PDT by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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