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Veteran Kills Himself in Parking Lot of V.A. Hospital on Long Island
Slimes ^ | 8/24/2016 | Kristina Rebelo

Posted on 08/24/2016 7:27:18 PM PDT by combat_boots

A 76-year-old veteran committed suicide on Sunday in the parking lot of the Northport Veterans Affairs Medical Center on Long Island, where he had been a patient, according to the Suffolk County Police Department.

Peter A. Kaisen, of Islip, was pronounced dead after he shot himself outside Building 92, the nursing home at the medical center.

The hospital is part of the Veterans Affairs medical system, the nation’s largest integrated health care organization, which has been under scrutiny since 2014, when the department confirmed that numerous patients had died awaiting treatment at a V.A. hospital in Phoenix. Officials there had tried to cover up long waiting times for 1,700 veterans seeking medical care. A study released by the Government Accountability Office in April indicated that the system had yet to fix its scheduling problems.

Why Mr. Kaisen decided to end his life was not immediately known, but two people connected to the hospital who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss his death said that he had been frustrated that he was unable to see an emergency-room physician for reasons related to his mental health. “He went to the E.R. and was denied service,” one of the people, who currently works at the hospital, said. “And then he went to his car and shot himself.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0bama; obamalies; va; vascandals; vets; vetsuicide
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

My husband is a vet and has had wonderful care. In addition, when he has been treated in other medical facilities, they covered it. But, I know it is otherwise in many places.


41 posted on 08/24/2016 8:45:05 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (If we continue to divide, they will conquer!)
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To: dragnet2

“Unless this is an attempt to discredit those who did not receive top shelf treatment like you.”

There are multiple sides to every issue. You apparently don’t want to know experiences other than negative with the VA. I can’t help you with that.


42 posted on 08/24/2016 8:48:01 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 2banana

Was he a combat veteran?

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43 posted on 08/24/2016 8:49:48 PM PDT by Mears
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To: dragnet2

I don’t want people getting, and giving, the wrong impression of VA care.


44 posted on 08/24/2016 8:52:15 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Mr.Unique

Heh. I consider the lab people ‘brusque’ too, and the admin people take a little smoozing...

It’s just like the Army!


45 posted on 08/24/2016 8:56:25 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: rockinqsranch
There are multiple sides to every issue.

Again, what has that has to do with those who have received substandard treatment? And why would you attempt to discredit those folks by pointing to someone who might have received better treatment?

46 posted on 08/24/2016 9:02:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“I have had nothing but stellar care through my VA.”

I don’t doubt your word. For myself, the phrase that leaps to mind is “kicked around like a mangy dog.”

They have behaved abominably, in ways that should see them fired, if not prosecuted.

May God have mercy on Mr. Kaisen’s soul, and may he be better treated in the next world than he was by the criminals at the VA.


47 posted on 08/24/2016 9:05:24 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: mrsmith

That’s understandable. I have no doubt many veterans receive great care. But it’s no secret there are issues and room for much improvement. Right?


48 posted on 08/24/2016 9:06:56 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: combat_boots

Sad, but predictable.


49 posted on 08/24/2016 9:22:46 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: dragnet2; mrsmith

So then you are saying that I intend by my post to “discredit” the negative positions of others about the VA.

“Discredit” is the keyword you are pressing me with as obviously you wish to challenge somebody, anybody to make your evening.

You go on, and find somebody that wants to play your game. I will not.


50 posted on 08/24/2016 9:34:17 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch
So then you are saying that I intend by my post to “discredit” the negative positions of others about the VA.

I didn't take it that way at all. And I'd bet most others didn't either.

51 posted on 08/24/2016 9:39:00 PM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...ASAP)
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To: rockinqsranch
Hey, no hard feelings!☺
52 posted on 08/24/2016 9:49:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ETL

Thank you. Over the years one develops insight of fellow freepers by interaction, and commentary. I would never have considered dragnet12 to be as contrary as we see him tonight.

BTW I’ve noted many of your postings over time, and thank you for your participation here at FR. Your documentation of issues is appreciated.


53 posted on 08/24/2016 9:56:43 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: combat_boots

God rest his soul. Prayers for his friends and family; and caregivers.


54 posted on 08/24/2016 9:58:52 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: JBW1949

Were veterans better taken care of before 1989, or now?


55 posted on 08/24/2016 10:27:32 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Bob

Same here they have been my go to for years, Wife works with them and knows the ropes.


56 posted on 08/24/2016 10:53:58 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: PAR35

Sad to say but always depends on the Facility, a lot of them out there are bad stuff. I happen to have a good advocate with the wife she has been on board since I was drafted in 66, Some are Hell Holes, and even the good ones have some bad apples, but learn to work around them or REPORT them, and she does that also. Have Buddies that have horrendous stories.


57 posted on 08/24/2016 11:05:16 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: combat_boots

“two people connected to the hospital... said that he had been frustrated that he was unable to see an emergency-room physician for reasons related to his mental health. “He went to the E.R. and was denied service,” ... “And then he went to his car and shot himself.”

“Someone dropped the ball,” the worker said. “They should not have turned him away.”

DUH! EPIC FAIL

“the employees here at Northport feel this loss deeply and extend their thoughts and prayers to all those impacted by this tragedy.”

Oh well then, your feelings, thoughts, and prayers make all the difference..... but wait... I”M DEAD!!!

“The Northport hospital has been under scrutiny for mismanagement and poor care ...”

” ...it had closed all five of its operating rooms for months after sand-size black particles began falling from air ducts.”

“... Representative Lee Zeldin, a Republican whose First Congressional District includes Northport, had been looking into the allegations, Eric Amidon, Mr. Zeldin’s chief of staff, said in an email to The Times in June.”

JUNE???? How long does it take to FIRE someones A$$?

The V.A., a national DISGRACE.

Help is on it’s way, Trump to the rescue, but sadly not soon enough for Mr. Kaisen. How many more of our veterans will die, waiting in line, before Trump is elected and fixes this mess?


58 posted on 08/25/2016 4:19:41 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: combat_boots
“He went to the E.R. and was denied service,”

I worked in a big city ER (civilian) for years.This doesn't sound right.Even if he was,in fact,not eligible for VA treatment they should have arranged for him to be transferred to a civilian hospital.He certainly would have seen a "triage" nurse first and he/she would have determined why he was there and how urgent his complaint could be considered.And if,then,a clerk told the nurse that he was,somehow,ineligible,transfer arrangements would have been made.

59 posted on 08/25/2016 4:39:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (In Today's America Feelings Are The New Truth)
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To: combat_boots

76? Probably Vietnam.


60 posted on 08/25/2016 4:41:01 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (In Today's America Feelings Are The New Truth)
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