Posted on 08/29/2016 8:35:07 AM PDT by xzins
The right to life and liberty take precedence, so there really can be no ‘muslim right to behead.” It is an extreme example, but it doesn’t work given the provisions of the amendment that clearly are universal and not congressionally based. Unless, of course, someone would like to maintain that states can deprive of life and liberty at whim because they are not congress. That was made clear in the XIV “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
***Does it mean I am being “imposed upon?” Absolutely***
There are many ways the verb impose can be used, I think here your use is invalid.
You are a guest on someones forum, any imposition would be on you because as a guest only you can be the imposer.
There lies the difference between public and private domains. This college is not a private institution, thus no imposition on the part of the praying people.
A public university receives tax benefits from all of us.
***Campuses and other government bodies can place restrictions on who can enter their facilities and what they are allowed to do there***
I think we are giving away too much freedom of assembly to say that college campuses can restrict usage of the campus to students and faculty only, when seen fit by administrators.
As there are very few if any truly “private” colleges, people have a right to gather there and speak and to engage others.
South Carolina. . .no US Flags at football games, no prayer, etc. . . .this is a state going down fast. A total reprobate mindset from its leaders (political, education, and even parents).
Dude. What does your daughter have to do with the fact that Clemson receives government funds? And why did you claim a megaphone was used when there was no megaphone? Maybe because there was no disruption and you're lying? How about that? So you're violating integrity with lies, changing the truth by adding megaphones, violating the family by invoking a fake daughter - all of it, in order to attack Christians who are quietly praying, in order to support the destruction of the first amendment.
Now who would do that? How about some liberal craphead posting in his pajamas at Starbucks, paid by the Clinton Foundation? After all, only a liberal would even want to violate as many levels of morality as you did over this subject.
Take your hate and dreams of invisibility and shove them into the wretched crap filled hole where your heart used to be, before you ripped it out and offered it to Gaia.
Electing Linda, Sanford, and Haley should have been big clues.
On a much brighter note, not ALL universities are following this path.
Syracuse University is hosting a *Worship the King* event at the Carrier Dome on Friday evening Sept 16 beginning at 7PM for anyone who is interested. Parking and admission are free.
This is being done in conjunction with 25-30 local area churches and 15 Syracuse University ministries, including:
Fellowship of Christian Athletes
Evangelical Christian Ministries
Roman Catholic Association
Historically Black Church
Young Life College
Brothers and Sisters in Christ (BASIC)
Adventist Christian Fellowship
Baptist Campus Ministries
Bible Study Ministries
The Vineyard
Lutheran Campus Ministries
Mustard Seed Fellowship
Orthodox Christian Fellowship
Syracuse Cru
United Methodist Ecumenical Campus Ministry
The stated purpose on the flyers they are printing out is: To unite the body of Christ and transform the city of Syracuse.
This is being done with the full support of the new chancellor.
They are still in the process of establishing a website. There is a website called Worship the King.com which is NOT connected to this event. The website is not the .com address.
Please pray for this event for safety and protection and success. I’m sure there will be those actively opposing this.
Just as an aside, there is a mosque on or just on the border of the campus so there is a muslim presence in Syracuse.
Sorry you are outside of the ‘Constitutional zone’ so i am now going to violate your Constitutional Rights and you can’t do anything about it.
Mostly the rules are crafted to prevent disturbances and to keep the campus safe. A campus wide ban on any outside group on a public university would probably not survive a challenge. However a rule requiring that guidelines for solicitation and public speaking be followed by all visitors is not an undue burden on First Amendment rights.
The campus also has a duty to know what outside persons or groups are using their space. At times it would be quite reasonable and prudent to ban some of these. If they tried to claim religious speech posed a security threat or danger to students that would be way over the top and not justified. But saying everyone who wants to come onto campus and speak has to follow the same rules is reasonable.
I wish people would read the full story. Jumping to conclusions based on incomplete information is a hallmark of Progressives. We Conservatives are supposed to base our opinions on all the facts not just those meant to arouse our indignation.
I guess my being flip made it a little hard for you to understand. Muslims may not bring their pray rugs into my house. Kapeesh?
And if you want to understand the Fourteenth Amendment, Raoul Berger's Government by Judiciary is a good place to start.
ML/NJ
That, too, would violate your life and liberty, so as of yet you’ve not addressed the constitution as it is written.
That said, I don’t like rugs at all, so I’m with you, brother!
***But saying everyone who wants to come onto campus and speak has to follow the same rules is reasonable***
It is not possible to concede that there can be rules without having to constantly get courts involved in determining what those rules may be.
I say it is less burdensome to allow all to speak within the same city ordinance guidelines for hours of speaking and volume.
The courts certainly do not have to get constantly involved unless the university has a do-do brain for legal counsel. Or a wish to ignore very expensive advice from that counsel. Which would not surprise me.
It would be ill advised for the university not to have very clear rules and guidelines for allowing outsiders to access the campus and speak. Including definitions for “disturbance” and what would violate any noise restrictions.
****It would be ill advised for the university not to have very clear rules and guidelines for allowing outsiders to access the campus and speak. Including definitions for “disturbance” and what would violate any noise restrictions.****
Which should all match city ordinances for public areas.
Can universities arbitrarily and capriciously suspend the U.S. Constitution?
Since when?
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