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To: Robert DeLong

>>his non belief in a creator

That was last year. Now the Molyneux wind is blowing a different direction...

[The Catholic Church Built Western Civilization]
Stefan Molyneux
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-eUnj1ATMc

Just in time for the Pope’s ecumenical rendition of “we are the world” perhaps?

In the meantime the Word is the same as He was.


12 posted on 09/17/2016 3:04:48 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat
That was an extremely stimulating and enjoyable video. Both Dr. Duke Pesta and Stefan are extremely intelligent people that I could listen to and be entertained by for hours. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

I must admit that I am indeed glad that I decided to further the discussion with you even though I harbored trepidation because you never know how one will react when you question someone's point of view. Fortunately you took it the way I had intended, not as confrontational, but rather as a dialect between two polar views of dissenting opinions of, in this case, Stefan Molyneux.

If I hadn't and you had reacted differently, I would have never probably learned more about him. While I was convinced he was a very smart person and enjoyable person, at least for me to watch, I was dismayed by his Religion & Proof video. Then his intelligence was confirmed by his Catholic Church Built Western Civilization video. It shows that even with all of the misinformation he had been fed, had not so locked him into a position where he was lost forever with that point of view. That is a sign of real intelligence. He overcame that when introduced to someone who had the ability to make him see past those teachings, which provides me with encouragement that others too can be saved, as it were.

But it of course leads me to wonder why you still view him as an atheist, and why you hold such a negative view of him. To me they do not add up as logical, not that I think you to be illogical because just the opposite is the case. Which is why I am mystified to say the least.

I can never find fault with those who have not been able to accept what I accept as the truth, for I myself was slow to accept it as well. However, I also must let them know that I disagree with and why I do. Either I am a combative, or an inquisitive person, which is hard for me to say. Whatever the truth is I have come to realize that is how I personally learn, by questioning, and speaking my views.

It has been an enjoyable conversation, of which I am thankful we had the opportunity to engage in. You made it an enjoyable and enlightening experience that I will forever cherish.

13 posted on 09/17/2016 6:04:30 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: HLPhat
I forgot to respond regarding the Pope. Not being Catholic I have limited insight into him in reality, but sadly I must admit that I am not really that impressed with him. He seems to send mixed messages, that even his followers question, not to mention others within the hierarchy of the Catholic Church.

While obviously God's word has not changed, it seems like his teachings are morphing in various situations and to varying degrees. When true science is at odds with teachings then this is understandable, but then it still brings in questions as to why they were at odds in the first place. To me, the answer is that it is man's transcription of what God enlightened them with and they misinterpreted either by design or misunderstanding.

14 posted on 09/17/2016 6:15:56 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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