Self-defense is ALWAYS a valid excuse
If my vehicle is surrounded, I am driving over them
I have a nice big Dodge Ram 2500 with a lift kit. I won’t even need to scrape any nasty bits out of my undercarriage
“Your honor, I remembered Reginald Denney and I was in fear of my life”....
I would run them over, and the drop it into reverse!
They defense is that you were in fear of your life. Works in every state I know of.
If surrounded by a pack of looting thugs, I’ll put the pedal to the metal and let the chips fall where they may.
I like the Flamethrower under each door idea
Thank you, very interesting and hopefully never useful information.
Better to be tried by 12 peers instead of carried to your grave by 6 pall bearers.
Goes without saying. Always better to be judged by nine instead of carried by six.
Proceeding intently along the roadway is not "running them down." Changing direction to target someone is running someone down.
-PJ
Reginald Denny is an object lesson and historical precedent here
Preventing someone from having freedom of movement is kidnapping. Use of deadly force is always justified against attempted kidnapping, because that is a “forcible felony”, just like rape and murder.
criminal gangs have no right to surround your vehicle, it involves threat, meanace, and raises probable hostage-taking and kidnapping charges, etc
i cant give any legal advice of course, but if they try it on me, I will ask them to let me leave and then if they keep me imprisoned i will tell them i intend to leave by shifting into gear and pressing my gas pedal. if they don’t clear a path they will get hit, period.
to hell with the thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if they want to call the police, fine and dandy i will deal with that when and if the time comes. meanwhile, they WILL I PROMISE YOU not imprison me on the public way
to HELL with the thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and if people drive thru them ,, they’re still DAMned lucky folks don’t just blow their brains out)
In Kentucky it is. All you have to say is, “That video of Reginald Denny kept going through my mind.”
In Kentucky, if you fear for loss of life or great bodily harm, it is legal to use lethal force.
We just had a case where a guy was the aggressor in a road rage case, but he was only verbal. The other guy then came at him with a baseball bat, at which point he shot the guy with the bat dead. He was found not guilty. He feared for his life of great bodily harm (one whack with a bat can kill you), justifying his use of deadly force. Who started it is not germane. It’s who escalated it that matters.
They surrounded my car and were screaming at me and beating on my car. I was afraid for my life. I would like to speak to my lawyer, please.
The problem is that once they come at you, it may be too late. They could be milling around, no threat at all...then 3 seconds later your window is crashed and your skull next.
Reginald Denny would have been better off had he kept on truck’n.
A reasonably slow steady drive forward is good. They cannot resist it, and will quickly fall away. It would also demonstrate that you did not have the goal of causing harm to them...only to escape.
Coming to a dead stop in the middle of an ambush is a really bad idea. It’s the worst possible thing you can do in fact. US military doctrine is pretty consistent on this.