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Improper Recycling Could Land You in Jail: How Overcriminalization Threatens Everyone
Daily Signal ^ | October 11, 2016 | Jacob Weaver | John-Michael Seibler

Posted on 10/12/2016 11:32:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Criminal laws and regulations in the United States have increased to absurd proportions in the past few decades, posing a growing threat to our constitutional liberties.

There are nearly 5,000 criminal laws and an estimated 300,000 or more criminal regulations at the federal level alone. In fact, there are so many possible criminal offenses that Harvey Silverglate, a civil liberties attorney, contends the average American probably commits at least three felonies a day, most without knowing it.

In April, the perils of overcriminalization were on full display when Brian Everidge traveled to Michigan with more than 10,000 bottles and cans, seeking to capitalize on Michigan’s generous 10 cents-per-bottle refund program. He stood to make $1,000.

Everidge was pulled over for speeding and found himself facing a $5,000 fine and up to five years in prison after the state trooper discovered his cargo. As it turned out, transporting more than 10,000 bottles into Michigan with the intent to collect a deposit is a felony. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailysignal.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: District of Columbia; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: criminallaw; govtmicromanaging; nannystate; recycling
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To: xp38

Yup. That’s why they pay you.


21 posted on 10/12/2016 12:16:58 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Mr. Douglas

I can see a misdemeanor, even for large amounts. “Felony” is absurd.


22 posted on 10/12/2016 12:18:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I can see a misdemeanor, even for large amounts. “Felony” is absurd.


Yeah. That is the other half of this story. And I agree.


23 posted on 10/12/2016 12:19:59 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Wilum
the average American probably commits at least three felonies a day, most without knowing it.

Staying home all day should eliminate two of the three.

24 posted on 10/12/2016 12:22:12 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Smells like false attribution. And love of statism.


25 posted on 10/12/2016 12:23:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Wilum

Save on all those new codes and permits by “repairing” half of whatever project this year and half next year.


26 posted on 10/12/2016 12:24:30 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Mr. Douglas

Look at the penalty for attempting to make $1K against this law: five years in prison and $5K fine.


27 posted on 10/12/2016 12:26:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, the penalty is too steep.

Not to mention that you can never legally own a gun again.


28 posted on 10/12/2016 12:28:38 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: brianr10

ENTROPY JUST IS

Recycling is for stupid, illiterate, ignorant people who have poor education in economics and science. For some homeless it makes sense. Demanding children recycle is a form of mild abuse. Conformity to parent’s ignorance.

In other words, the requirement to reverse normal entropy is a very large energy source.

Tell that line to your recycling parents, teacher or state, then tell them to shut up and go get educated. Lol.

And no I will not explain it. Lol.


29 posted on 10/12/2016 12:30:44 PM PDT by TheNext (Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I suppose if you bring in 9,900 bottles at a time, then you are guilty of structuring.

POTD! :-)

30 posted on 10/12/2016 12:32:18 PM PDT by mwilli20 (BO. Making communists proud all over the world.)
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To: dfwgator

Recycling is not a sham. The bottle law states are a sham.
Fraud from top to bottom. Overcharged consumers are funding this massive scam. I know. Aluminum cans on an industrial scale are bought in tractor trailer amounts in a non bottle law states and shipped to a bottle law state where the scammer gets 5 times the value. They are reimbursed by weight and assumed weight per aluminum can. So any crap within the bales of aluminum cans are paid for as well.
Pure fraud!!!!!!! sort of like taxes!!!!


31 posted on 10/12/2016 12:34:42 PM PDT by free from tyranny
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To: Olog-hai

The only recycling that makes sense to me whatsoever is metal. It’s a finite resource that shouldn’t be wasted. But glass is made of sand. Plastic is easier and cheaper to make new than to recycle. Paper is renewable since trees can be regrown. The less demand for tree farms the more land will be permanently desstroyed for housing develpoments.


32 posted on 10/12/2016 12:34:55 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Olog-hai

The only recycling that makes sense to me whatsoever is metal. It’s a finite resource that shouldn’t be wasted. But glass is made of sand. Plastic is easier and cheaper to make new than to recycle. Paper is renewable since trees can be regrown. The less demand for tree farms the more land will be permanently desstroyed for housing develpoments.


33 posted on 10/12/2016 12:34:57 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: brianr10

It sounds like you are married to my wife.

I do some token stuff but usually throw stuff in the trash. There is a chance that’s what happens when the truck drops it off later.


34 posted on 10/12/2016 12:36:09 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Olog-hai
One of my favorite example of 'felony sprawl' is the fact that just about every elderly person in America who uses one of those day-of-week pill containers is committing a felony. They can lock you up for 20 years.

That sounds like the appropriate punishment for attempting to make sure you are taking daily medication in the prescribed dosages. How dare them!

35 posted on 10/12/2016 12:41:12 PM PDT by zeugma (Welcome to the "interesting times" you were warned about.)
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To: brianr10

“I don’t even bother recycling, though my wife has a fetish about it. It’s a pain in the ass, washing out containers and removing plastic bits and labels.”

Just where do you live? We recycle practically everything now and we don’t have to wash out anything! Our “garbage can” goes out every week practically empty. We put food scraps in with the green waste as well. Here in California there is a lot of pressure not to put everything in a landfill, and it’s one of the few good ideas that comes out of our $hitball government.


36 posted on 10/12/2016 12:46:44 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: TheNext
Actually what it really boils down to more than anything else is the energy budget of recycling vs extracting metals from ore. The reason recycling aluminum is almost always something that makes sense is because it takes a lot of energy (mostly electricity) to refine aluminum, and takes almost none to recycle. Until we discovered how to use electricity to extract aluminum from ore, even though it is an incredibly abundant element in the earth's crust, aluminum was a precious metal. Some of the crown jewels of England are made of aluminum, because it was actually worth more than gold once-for-ounce.

Glass is fairly recyclable as well, depending upon your application. Paper and plastics? Not so much, because it takes about as much energy to recycle as it does to make new. You'd save on the raw material if it didn't cost as much as it does to sort, process, and transport recycled plastics. Unfortunately, those extra costs add up to enough, that for most applications it simply doesn't make sense.

37 posted on 10/12/2016 12:57:51 PM PDT by zeugma (Welcome to the "interesting times" you were warned about.)
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To: wally_bert

In our office there are separate containers for recycling.

One curious person (not me) was staying late one evening and followed the trash out the door to see what happened to the recycle baskets.

It turns out that the cleaning people took all of the recycle baskets and threw them in the regular trash dumpster!

On further research it turned out that the building had no separate place for recycled items.

This has to be happening in millions of locations in the country.


38 posted on 10/12/2016 12:58:10 PM PDT by cgbg
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To: Olog-hai

There are so many laws known and unknown that we are all criminals.


39 posted on 10/12/2016 1:44:46 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: cgbg

We need to recycle most of the government employees into Soylent Green.


40 posted on 10/12/2016 1:45:42 PM PDT by oldasrocks (rump)
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